broncepulido

Tested and now the ASW Stand-off weapons work fine, just in top of the target {to compensate I have reduced the PH of all homing torpedoes a 17%, but that is other long story). About the far more rounds than needed fired, suspect is not only in the case of ASW Stand-off weapons, but in case of any multitube ASW torpedo launchers employed by the AI, but I dont see as research it in a test scenario.

Notes on some units: - Greek P-3B Orion were retired from service in 2009, but structurally overhauled and returning to service from May 17, 2019. The first one returned in the original configuration, four others are waiting for a return in updated configuration, including EL/M-2022A radar. - The submarine concrete classes and names (Aside Turkish Preveze, a Type 209-1400, Scire, an Italian Type 212A and a Greek Type 214) participating in DYMA23 are not verified. - It is not clear the identity of an Italian AOR, if present. The rest of NATO ships present in DYMA23 is verified. - British Poseidon MRA1 are represented by Australian P-8A. - The some 38 Italian Tornado IDS are not depicted in the scenario, as Kormoran 1 AShM was retired circa 1997. - Italian G550 CAEW are represented by Israeli equivalents. - Meteor AAM missiles apparently are not yet deployed in Italian Eurofighter as on March 2023 (Also, in the Air Forces Monthly of May 2023, the Meteor service use in Italian Eurofighter is depicted as "shortly"). - Longshot HAAWC stand-off ASW weapon (with Mk54 torpedo) achieved at last IOC on November 2022.

Some sources (2023): https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-maritime-patrol-aircraft-in-sicily-for-exercise/ https://www.defensa.com/videos/armada-espanola-ejercicio-caza-submarinos-dynamic-manta-23 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/photos_212511.htm https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2023/march/12904-nato-starts-anti-submarine-warfare-exercise-dynamic-manta-23-near-sicily.html https://seawaves.com/2023/03/06/nato-advanced-anti-submarine-warfare-exercise-dynamic-manta/ On the delivered Italian F-35: https://www.f-16.net/index.php?module= AircraftDB&func=view_airframes_byaf&airforce=ANI&actype=F-35 A mention to the use of seven different types of helicopters (Just as inferred in the scenario design!): https://www.dvidshub.net/video/876257/snmg2-dynamic-manta-2023

View File Exercise Dynamic Manta 2023 (DYMA23). 27 February-10 March 2023. Historical Training Scenario. Exercise Dynamic Manta 2023 (DYMA 23), February 27-March 10, 2023. Historical Training Scenario. A Harpoon Commander's Edition scenario for EC2003 Battle for the Mediterranean Battleset and the HCDB2-170308 new standard 1980-2025 Platform Database. This scenario is designed with advanced Scenario Editor and to be run with HCE 2015.008+ or later. This scenario is designed to be played from the Blue/NATO side or from the Red/NATO side. You should play a few times first the Blue side to avoid spoilers, and only later play the Red side. Image: The Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS James E Williams (DDG-95) flagship of Standing NATO Maritime Group 2 on this time period, departs from Norfolk, Virginia, for Mediterranean NATO deployment, December 2, 2022. Photo released by Commander, US 2nd Fleet Public Affairs, took by a serviceperson on duty, and in consequence on public domain. This text begins as the usual introduction to Dynamic Manta exercise previous years, but this time is for more real, as we are for a year living in the abyss edge. From the eventful year of 2014 the World was beginning the so-called Second Cold War, the President of Russia Vladimir Putin (ex-KGB lieutenant colonel) was showing clearly his plan to recover the Russian Empire and later Soviet territories for reinstitute the greatness of his Russia, and to guarantee his passage on the History as saviour of the Rodina. At last the Russian campaign for the invasion of Ukraine started on February 24, 2022. But was only the apex and last outcome of a succession of military actions. From May 2014 Putin was provoking in succession the Crimea, Ukraine, Donetsk, Baltic States, October 2014 Swedish submarine incursion, G-20 Brisbane meeting naval crisis, November 2014 Faslane submarine incident, frigate Yaroslav Mudryy February "Channel Dash", April 2015 Finnish submarine incursion (for many observers causing the pre-mobilization of Finland reserve forces), Russian intervention in Syria from 30 September 2015, shoot-down by Turkish F-16 fighters equipped with AIM-120 AMRAAM on 24 November 2015 of a Russian Su-24M as consequence of the repeated unlawful overflights of Turkey by Russian warplanes based in Latakia, and after two months of repeated warning, March 2016 detection by the French of a Russian submarine near Bay of Biscay and the SSBN base, the propaganda stunt of the deployment of the only one Russian aircraft carrier Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov steaming (a lot, literally) from Kola Bay towards Eastern Mediterranean from October 15, 2016, and with constant and multiple Russian overflies with military warplanes entangled in potential incidents with commercial flights in Europe, so far as at the Portuguese shores. That without counting in other unrelated naval incidents aside the upcoming Second Cold War, just as the Iranian seizure of the merchant Maersk Tigris in 28 April 2015, the shore-based anti-ship missile attacks against the catamaran transport ex Swift (HSV-2) and US destroyers on the Red Sea in October 2016 and the ulterior retaliation, the first military operation of the Trump Administration on January 28, 2017, the MV-22B tiltrotor raid of SEAL Team 6 operating from USS Makin Island (LHD-8) against Houthi Yemen, and later on January 30, an Al-Madinah-class Saudi frigate was attacked and damaged probably by a Houthi suicide or drone boat off Al Hudaydah, Houthi Yemen. (And neither counting in great landlocked actions, as the counter-Daesh operations in Middle East). And meanwhile, more towards Far East a less perceived and growing problem was China, as reflected in the transfer of the 60% of the USN and USAF combat forces to the Pacific Theatre of Operations from 2012, move to be completed by 2020. The first iteration of this scenario was designed six years ago, based in the big anti-submarine exercise Dynamic Manta 2017 begun in 13 March 2017, and was not interpreted by many journalists as an answer to the latest Russian actions and menacing postures as in the case of Dynamic Mongoose 2015, as it was actually a yearly exercise. But in the current world situation was legit to think otherwise. Four years later the reality was probably those and other continuous exercises, the NATO Baltic Air Policing, and the deployment of token NATO ground forces in the Baltic States and rest of Eastern Europe, are showing to Putin's Russia the resolution to defend Europe and allies as a whole, and preventing the development of a hot war. But from 2017 to 2022 the international situation was going worse. Increased tensions and open conflicts in Eastern Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, the recent, fast, innovative and decisive war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and the increased foreign operations of Iran, Qatar and the UAE, including proxy attacks against Saudi Arabia and the crescendo of the Turkish military power cutting ties with the Western alliances. Not an easy near future for the new President Biden and the traditional European partners. But ... by hazard the previous lines were wrote and posted (minor corrections aside) for Dynamic Manta 2022 in February 25, 2022, just minutes before the first news of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. From then, all we live in a different and more extreme world. But standard procedures and drills need to continue. Nowadays Dynamic Manta 2023 is centred in Standing NATO Maritime Group 2, commanded by Rear Admiral Michael Scott Sciretta, USN, composed this time by the flagship Arleigh Burke-class Flight IIA guided missile destroyer USS James E. Williams (DDG-95), Italian Navy FREMM ASW-variant frigate Carlo Margottini F-592, Turkish Barbaros-class/Meko 200TN Track-IIA frigate Barbaros F-244, and Greek Hydra-class/Meko 200HN frigate Psara F-454), and many others air, surface and subsurface elements. Of course this is a training exercise and actual shots, torpedoes and missiles aren't fired and nobody is hurt ... but in the alternate timeline we share now everything is possible, and that previous affirmation can be untrue. Enrique Mas, March 25, 2023. Submitter broncepulido Submitted 03/25/2023 Category MEDC  

I know these weapons were corrected as four years ago in the game engine because excessive accuracy (don't remember it well now). With many years of delay at last Longshot HAAWC (weapon entry #22580) reached IOC in November 2022, and my idea was to introduce it in the new scenarios after 11/2022. Previously Stand Off ASW are little employed (mostly for old Soviet/Russian SSNs) and I didn't repair on this bug. When a Stand Off ASW weapon is now employed, the torpedo (I didn't tested nuke depth bombs) drops in water TEN NM from the target, and the torpedo never can reach the submarine target. If the launching ship is less than 10 NM from the target, the torpedo drops in water almost inmediatally, making the ship's ASW torpedo tubes redundant, and also never reaching the submarine target. I don't know how to focus this problem (reducing the torpedo drop distance to 1, 2 or 3 NM???). I upload a test scenario here to show the situation. Is of the 2003 Mediterranean Battleset. It's a Red DISSUB some 7 NM south of each Neutral Oil Rig, the idea is to find it and attack with Stand Off ASWs (the effect and meditions is clearer employing the Longshot-carrying P-8A Poseidon based at Catania-Sigonella, now, in game terms, the "updated" Poseidon are a complete failure!), to observe the mentioned effect, Thanks! 2023-03 ASROC et alt TEST.zip

Concept and practical testing before build the ships: https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2023/02/marines-begin-testing-leased-vessel-pier-less-operations/383234/

Some considerations on UK submarines weapons capability, from more recent sources (DB updated last time 9/2017). Long weapons (heavy torpedoes, missiles) capability by classes, added magazines and torpedo tubes (as reflected in South Atlantic War book, torpedo tubes are usually employed to store weapons): Upholder, Victoria SS: 18 is ok. Dreadnought SSN: 25, should be 30. Valiant, Churchill SSN: 26, should be 32. Swiftsure SSN: 21, should be 25. Trafalgar SSN: 25, should be 30. Astute SSN: 28, should be 38. Some sources: https://www.navylookout.com/the-royal-navys-astute-class-submarines-part-2-platform-design/ http://www.hisutton.com/World-Submarine-Ranking-Weapons-Load.html https://www.wargamevault.com/product/394753/South-Atlantic-War-Third-Edition?src=newest https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uk/uk_subs.htm

Just remembering it's a "spy" balloon present in the DB, aircraft entry 10675 JLENS !!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JLENS https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2023/02/how-west-may-have-helped-build-chinas-spy-balloons/383029/

A very interesting piece debunking the infamous Seymour Hersh claims: https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe

Great article and some ideas: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/01/csis-wargame-chinas-invasion-of-taiwan-in-2026/

Notes on some units: - HMS Swiftsure torpedo load in 1977 (And in the rest of UK SSNs) should be a mix of ASW Mk23 Grog (Only with ASW capability) and unguided straight-running anti-ship Mk 8 Mod 4 (Mk VIII****). For try to simulate this, HMS Swiftsure (Entry 6393, 80/1, armed only with Mk 24 Mod 1 Tigerfish) is replaced in this scenario by HMS Warspite with older torpedoes (Valiant-class, entry 6390 with Mk 24 Mod 1 Tigerfish AND Mk8). - Mk 24 Mod 0 Tigerfish (Estimated PH=40%) with only ASW capability were introduced in 1980, and Mk 24 Mod 1 (Estimated PH=30%) adding limited anti-surface capabilities were introduced in 1979, and both were very defective (See Admiralty Trilogy's South Atlantic War supplement, by Andy Doty). - In consequence, to figure 1977, Blue player SHOULD EMPLOY ONLY Mk VIII** torpedoes to sink the Soviet surface ships. - Towed Sonar 2024 in UK submarines were of very limited availability even in 1982, less even in 1977 (Probably no UK submarine equipped with it in 1977), and were not convergence zone capable See Admiralty Trilogy's South Atlantic War supplement, by Andy Doty, and his very interesting notes on UK subs sonar variants). - Previously to her 1/1979-3/1983 refit HMS Swiftsure should be equipped with Sonar 2001BC (in lieu of Sonar 2020) and clearly without towed Sonar 2024. - Nimrod R.1/P were based at RAF Wyton from its introduction on 1974 to 1995 (From then rebased at RAF Waddington to its retirement on 2011), ASV.21 surface search radar was replaced by weather radar in 1980, and in-flight refuelling probe added 1982, just after South Atlantic War.

Some sources: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/how-a-british-submarine-spent-hours-under-a-russian-aircraft-carrier Nimrod R.1/2 were based at RAF Wyton to 1995 (From then rebased at RAF Waddington): https://www.51squadron.com/copy-of-about-us https://web.archive.org/web/20180805160743/http://www.spyflight.co.uk/nim.htm

View File Sink the Kiev earlier. April 1977. Historical scenario. A Harpoon Commander's Edition scenario for EC2003 Battle for the GIUK Gap and the HCDB2-170308 new standard 1980-2025 Platform Database. This scenario is designed with advanced Scenario Editor and to be run with HCE 2015.008+ or later. This scenario is designed to be played from the Blue/NATO side or from the Red/USSR side. You should play a few times first the Blue side to avoid spoilers, and only later play the Red side. Image: Swiftsure-class nuclear attack submarine HMS Spartan leaving HMNB Clyde, Faslane, June 1, 1993 (Photo: FOSNI PHOTS/MOD, licensed under the UK Open Government Licence version 1.0 (OGL v1.0). Took from Wikipedia Commons). A long time ago, in a sea world far, far away, it's a period of cold war ... In April 1977, during Soviet exercise SEVER-77, British nuclear attack submarine HMS Swiftsure get orders for a covert operation: close the then new Soviet CVH Kiev and obtain visual and sonic data about her, and the mission was a great success. The Soviet task force did sail off Lofoten archipelago in the Norwegian Sea and keep position to perform activities and show presence in face of one of the more clear Western allies, demonstrating the futility of any NATO opposition. The intelligence operation executed by HMS Swiftsure demonstrated just the opposite. In this speculative scenario, in an alternate timeline, WWIII breaks out and the UK SSN task is changed to sink the Kiev. Can you perform it at least as good as historically did HMS Swiftsure? Enrique Mas, January 21, 2023. Submitter broncepulido Submitted 01/21/2023 Category GIUK

Just the few last months disturbed by the ChatGPT (and Midjourney) developments.

Outcome:

Here, Mediterranean 2003 battleset: 2023-01 KITCHEN GIANT.zip

Just testing the scenario, probably I'll release it next weekend

Apparently fighters with AESA radars can disable cruise missiles electronics upto 180 Km/55 nm range: https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20221229.aspx

Great, funny and not very easy scenario. Only caveat, apparently settled in the early 2000, but without a concrete date or year (clock timed in 1970!). Also beware, players, use the original DB and not the last HCDB2, or you will find insurmountable odds!

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/tankers-scrambled-to-refuel-cargo-aircraft-over-arctic/

Or at least persisting towed many minutes each time, after each single release.

Not idea, but I think both modes, system dependant (In fact some as Ariel or ALE-50 are implemented in the DB from years ago).

First, a (Human) repeated typo in the chat, "direction" for "detection", that should challenge the answer!