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As consequence of the great and recent "Coral Sea 25" I did observe a little strange behaviour. To analyse it I scripted a little ASBM (anti-ship ballistic missile) scenario, settled in The Middle East IOPG theatre (Red Sea). Basically the problem is, when launched ASBM against the USN surface group, the Burke-class DDG correctly launches only SM-3 against the incoming orbital missiles, as they are capable of shooting down incoming missiles at orbit height, but not the SM-6 or SM-2, as its maximum ceiling is Very High. But the Harriers are launching against the incoming missiles its AMRAAM and Sidewinder, uncapable to reach orbit height!!! (only High or Very High capable). Also, I observe the AMRAAM and Sidewinder, inmediatly after his launching, dissapear of the screen (probably because are incapable to sustain orbit height!), but are inutily expended!!! 2024-07 ASBM TEST.zip

Italian carrier CVH550 Cavour in Far East. Air group comprises 8xF-35B (2 of Aeronautica Militare/Air Force), 5xAV-8B+, and 2xSH90. https://www.eurasiantimes.com/wacky-combo-of-f-35-stealth-fighters-loaded/ Details of other European escorts: F594 Alpino, F83 Numancia, F713 Aconit (Also in the region P432 Raimondo Montecuccoli ) https://www.analisidifesa.it/2024/06/lit-csg-con-la-portaerei-cavour-salpa-per-la-campagna-operativa-nellindo-pacifico/ Details of other Italian aircraft deployed Far East,total 15: 2xC-130J, 2xKC-767, 1xE-550 CAEW, 4xTyphoon, 4xF-35A (2xF-35B of Aeronautica Militare deployed on Cavour). https://it.insideover.com/difesa/con-laeronautica-e-la-marina-litalia-si-affaccia-anche-sullindo-pacifico.html

Attrition in both sides:

At last, remaining 1 day 55 minutes, Total Victory achieved, damaged Tokuta at 76%:

At 2 days 18 hours remaining minimum victory condition achieved, Shandong is sunk by a combination of SDB launched by F-35B and heavyweight torpedoes of the French SSN.

Advancing slowly and with some unexpected loses, 3 days 10 hours remaining, and Guadalcanal is so far away!!!

Fascinating ideas and scenario (not yet played), thanks for sharing, Patrick!!!

Not idea! for years employing only mousepad and not mouse!

But at those circunstances ASW-2/3 and MCM drop sonobuoys automatically, or not, as I remember in ASW-2/3?

Great point, not idea. I'll see. I think MCM mission type remember operates as ASW mission type. On a sidenote, ASW and ASW-LR mission types operate correctly (and think MCM the same), but ASW-2, ASW-3, ASW-4, etc, not, it operate only as a AEW mission type, flight at medium height (no possible use of MAD!) and does not drop sonobuoys!!!

I see also as very interesting point, the ECM pod value is in fact HALVED from 50% to 25%. See the fourth line, SA-6a PH=30%, ECM pod value 25% (halved in relation to the 50% value script in the DB), final value of PH=5%, as three missiles launches against the same single AGM-78 Standard ARM, the final probability is trebled to 15% (edited the first post now):

Just a first time, I see in the same action the "residual" PH of two SA-3b missiles is 2%, see the first line:

Here, at last, an example of "residual probability to hit", reduced to only 1% probably because a heavy ECM environment (It was very near a EA-6B with an ALQ-99F ICAP II ECM pod rated in this case to 50% (in fact rated to 25%, see the two post after this), and the SA-3b rated to 20% PH. I think 20-25=-5, but remaining a "positive" 1% of "residual" probability of hit, a good idea for me). Read the last line report on the image:

Great point. I simply slowed all the group speed, doing not that small management.

Thanks, not idea, first mention ever of that behaviour. Partly because usually SAM have not the "Ship attack" flag , I will see with time.

Of course that's the idea, but too many problems (to be commented aside in other posts) in developing this Pakistan scenario, and in consequence time consuming. To use your scenarios the next step!

Some sources: Main inspiration: Article by Paul French "Harpoon Scenario: Indian Interception" in Harpoon SITREP 66 https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Ships/Active/181-Rajput https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Ships/Active/177-Nilgiri-Class.html https://web.archive.org/web/20140826115907/http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Ships/Past/160-Deepak-Class.html Only six Alize available from 1978: https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Aviation/Aircraft/106-Alize.html Ka-25PL in Indian service from 12/1980: https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Aviation/Aircraft/117-Kamov-Ka25.html https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Aviation/Aircraft/112-Westland-Sea-King.html

Notes on some platforms: - Indian Ka-25BSh helicopter entry 8633 lacks the carrier capable flag in the DB, can't be used on ships. I employed instead USSR Ka-25BSh helicopter entry 8632. - Indian Vikrant 91 ship entry 2390 is incapable to operate Alize ASW aircrafts, lacks the Small Aircraft flag runway (or mostly all the Alizes should be classified as STOL aircrafts). I employed instead the very similar Australian HMAS Melbourne 80 ship entry 3516. - US Kidd-class DDG should be equipped at this date (1981 to 9/1989, pre-NTU upgrade) with SM-1MR missiles, and not with SM-2MR (and devoid of SPS-49 radar). Could be employed the equivalent mounts number 61006 and 61007 employed by the Virginia (82) CGN, ship entry number 3974. - Paul French remembers on his original article Indian Alizes were without ASW capability from 1982. On this scenario is employed the Indian Alize aircraft entry 11587, as if that capability was emergency restated, but basically for more gameplay. Could be used French Alize 97 aircraft entry 11173 devoid of ASW capabilities, but as explained above is for more gameplay. - Indian Sea Harrier Mk51 83 aircraft entry 10499 is replaced with British Sea Harrier FRS.1 81 aircraft entry 11033, with very limited strike and air-to-air capabilities, as the Indian ones in 1984 (the main difference is only the use of AIM-9G in lieu of Magic I).

View File A Passage to Pakistan, May 1984. Hypothetical Scenario. A Passage to Pakistan, May 1984. Hypothetical Scenario. A Harpoon Commander's Edition scenario for EC2003 Battle for the Middle East Battleset and the HCDB2-170308 new standard 1980-2025 Platform Database. This scenario is designed with advanced Scenario Editor and to be run with HCE 2015.008+ or later. This scenario is designed to be played from the Blue/US-Pakistani side or from the Red/Indian side. You should play a few times first the Blue side to avoid spoilers, and only later play the Red side. Image: The US Navy guided missile destroyer USS Kidd (DDG-993) underway on November 1, 1982, before her year long New Threat Upgrade (NTU) modernization completed September 1989, adding a long range air search radar SPS-49(V)5 in the foremast and replacing Standard SM-1MR by SM-2MR, and other changes. Later commissioned on November 3, 2006, as Taiwanese ROCS Tso Ying (DDG-1803) and yet in service. Photo by an US serviceperson on duty, and in consequence on public domain, took from Wikipedia Commons. This scenario is inspired and based in the Article by Paul French "Harpoon Scenario: Indian Interception", published in the Harpoon SITREP 66, April 2024. The initial idea is very simple (read SITREP 66 for more details): very limited US and Pakistani forces should escort three merchants loaded with vital and urgent assets from the Gulf of Aden to near Karachi in a limited time. Its task must be prevented by Indian forces. Good sailing and good luck. Enrique Mas, June 2, 2024. Submitter broncepulido Submitted 06/02/2024 Category Middle East  

No, just as with the previous magazine issue, not discernible pattern

I suspect that sometimes

This is a web site of I think recent creation, probably interesting: https://naval-encyclopedia.com/cold-war/us/skate-class.php

A nightmare for me for years, and with outcomes as inconsistent as those with (past!) the magazine error problem.

From June 2023 Venezuelan Avante 2200/Guaiqueri 11-class are equipped with 8xC802A Chinese anti-ship missiles, s0 getting considerable punch on the timeline of this hypothetical scenario: https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diario/mostrar/4421283/armada-venezuela-nuevos-buques-sistemas-misilisticos