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I'm reading now (very poorly, remember) Тяжелые авианесущие крейсера «Минск», «Новороссийск», «Баку»/TAKR "Minsk", "Novorossiysk", "Baku", also by V.P. Sablotskiy, Modelist-Konstruktor 4/2004 ( http://modelist-konstruktor.ru/mr/0404 ) More definitive data (correcting here some of the previous data. I do some editing in my first post): Novorossiisk(Kiev Mod.) Pr.1143M/.3: Standard disp: 31900 Speed: 30 Total Aircrafts: 36 (Hangar capacity ?) SSM: 8 (+8 reloads) x Basalt (SS-N-12) SAM: 2xTwin Shtorm (Total 96 SA-N-3) 2xSextuple SA-N-9 (total 96 SA-N-9)(Never fitted, as per data annex and photographic evidence) Guns: 2xTwin 76mm AK-726 (Total 3400 rounds) 8 x AK-630M(rotary) (Total 32000 rounds) ASW: 1x Twin Vikhr (Total 16 x SUW-N-1) 2 x RBU-6000(120 RGB-60 rockets) 533mm TT (None) Sonar: Hull: Horse Jaw/MGK-355 Polinom Towed: Horse Tail/MGK-355 Polinom Admiral Gorshkov (ex-Baku) Pr.1143.4: Standard disp: 33440 Speed: 29 Total Aircrafts: 36 (Hangar capacity 26) SSM: 12 (no reloads)(literally, без перезарядки) SAM: 4xSextuple SA-N-9 (total 192) Guns: 2xSingle 100mm AK-100 (total 600 rounds) 8 x AK-630M(rotary)(total 48000 rounds) ASW: 2 x RBU-12000 (60x2 rounds) 553mm TT None Sonar: Hull: Horse Jaw/MGK-355 Polinom Towed: Horse Tail/MGK-355 Polinom

Now, tracking Santa, courtesy of NORAD, hehehe, er.... hohoho

Remember, my russian is very poor, but more data (some contradictory) from Тяжелый авианесущий крейсер «Киев»/TAKR "Kiev", by V.P. Sablotskiy, Modelist-Konstruktor 7/2003 ( http://modelist-konstruktor.ru/mr/0307 ) Kiev Pr.1143.1: Lenght: 273 m Standard disp: 30500 Speed: 32 Total Aircrafts: 30 (Hangar capacity 22? Hangar dimensions 130x22,5x6,6 m./ Hangar dimensions Pr. 1143.4 130x22,8, as states "Su-33, Naval Epopee", basically the same space capacity) Some early air wings: 20 x Yak-38 Forger and 2 x Ka-25PS Hormone-C or 20x Ka-25PL (Ka-27 post-1987) and 2 x Ka-25PS Hormone-C Ordnance storage: RN-28 nuclear bomb x 18 Kh-23/AS-7 Kerry ASM x 143 R-3S/AA-2A Atoll AAM x 176 S-5 unguided rocket x 4800 SB-500 bomb x 30 RBK-250 bomb x 20 AT-1 ASW torpedo x 30 PLAB 250-120 Deep Charge x 40 RGB-NM sonobuoy x 504 (similar to RGB-56/BM-1) "Poplabok" radiobuoy? x 300 OMAB-25 phosphorous marker buoy x 300 SSM: 8 (+8 reloads) x P-500/Basalt (SS-N-12)(That's a textual description, without indo-arabic numerals, and I don't understand very well the text) SAM: 2xTwin Shtorm (Total 48x2=96 SA-N-3, I suppose the same quantity, definitely, also for Pr.1143.2 Minsk and Pr.1143.3 Novorossiysk) 2xTwin Osa-M (Total 20x2=40 SA-N-4) Guns: 2xTwin 76mm AK-726 (Total 3400 rounds) 8 x AK-630M(rotary) (Total 32000 rounds) ASW: 1x Twin Vikhr (Total 16 x SUW-N-1) 2 x RBU-6000(Total 120 RGB-60 rockets) 2 x PTA-53-1143 Quintuple 533mm TT (Total 10x2=20 torpedoes, SET-53 and/or SET-65)

Thanks ! It works very well, and I don't need stop/loiter the plane

But I see before, when you set the speed of a ASW plane to "loiter", the plane stopped and launch a sonobouy, but now no, How I can drop a sonobuoy manually, there's a key combination ? (And now I remember, It was a key combination to drop tanks and ordnance, is implemented now, has some utility ?)

More data from "Su-33, Naval Epopee", by Andrei Fomin, 2003, ISBN 5-93511-006-7, a very impressive and detailed book (in russian, and my russian is very bad !!): Moskva-Leningrad Pr.1123: Standard disp: 11900 Speed: 30 Total Aircrafts: 14 (Hangar capacity 12+2) 12 x Ka-25 Hormone-A 1 x Ka-25Ts Hormone-B 1 x Ka-25PS Hormone-C SSM: none SAM: 2xTwin Shtorm (Total 48 SA-N-3) Guns: 2xTwin 57mm AK-725 ASW: 1x Twin Vikhr (Total 8 x SUW-N-1) 2 x RBU-6000 2 x Quintuple 533mm TT Hull: Moose Jaw/MG-342 Orion Towed: Mare Tail/MG-325 Vega Kiev-Minsk Pr.1143.1/.2: Standard disp: 30500 (Minsk 30535) Speed: 30 Total Aircrafts: 22 (Hangar capacity ?) 16-20 x Ka-25 (Ka-27 post-1987) 2 x Ka-25Ts Hormone-B 2 x Ka-25PS Hormone-C 12-20 x Yak-38 Forger SSM: 8 (+8 reloads) x Basalt (SS-N-12) SAM: 2xTwin Shtorm (Total 96 SA-N-3) 2xTwin Osa-M (Total 40 SA-N-4) Guns: 2xTwin 76mm AK-726 (Total 3400 rounds) 8 x AK-630M(rotary) (Total 32000 rounds) ASW: 1x Twin Vikhr (Total 16 x SUW-N-1) 2 x RBU-6000(120 RGB-60 rockets) 2 x Quintuple 533mm TT (SET-65 or SET-53) Hull: Bull Horn/MGK-335 Platina + Moose Jaw/MG-342 Orion Towed: Platina (Piranha/Steer Hide, as High Tide database towed complement to Platina) (Also, the first two ships are a simpler ECM suite than the second two ships) Novorossiisk(Kiev Mod.) Pr.1143.3: Standard disp: 31900 Speed: 30 Total Aircrafts: 36 (Hangar capacity ?) 16-20 x Ka-25 (Ka-27 post-1987) 2 x Ka-25Ts Hormone-B 2 x Ka-25PS Hormone-C 12-20 x Yak-38 Forger SSM: 8 (+8 reloads) x Basalt (SS-N-12) SAM: 2xTwin Shtorm (Total 96 SA-N-3) 2xSextuple SA-N-9 (total 96 SA-N-9)(Never fitted, as per data annex and photographic evidence) Guns: 2xTwin 76mm AK-726 (Total 3400 rounds) 8 x AK-630M(rotary) (Total 32000 rounds) ASW: 1x Twin Vikhr (Total 16 x SUW-N-1) 2 x RBU-6000(120 x RGB-60 rockets) Sonar: Hull: Horse Jaw/MGK-355 Polinom Towed: Horse Tail/MGK-355 Polinom Admiral Gorshkov (ex-Baku) Pr.1143.4: Standard disp: 33440 Speed: 29 Total Aircrafts: 36 (Hangar capacity 26) 8 x Ka-27 4 x Ka-31 2 x Ka-27PS 22 x Yak-38M Forger SSM: 12 (no reloads) x Basalt (SS-N-12) SAM: 4xSextuple SA-N-9 (total 192) Guns: 2xSingle 100mm AK-100 (total 600 rounds) 8 x AK-630M(rotary)(total 48000 rounds) ASW: 2 x RBU-12000 (60 x 2 rockets) Sonar: Hull: Horse Jaw/MGK-355 Polinom Towed: Horse Tail/MGK-355 Polinom Admiral Kuznetsov Pr.1143.5: Standard disp: 46540 Speed: 29 Total Aircrafts: 52 (Hangar capacity 36) 18 x Ka-27/Ka-29 4 x Ka-31 2 x Ka-27PS 26 x Su-27K/MiG-29K SSM: 12 x Granit (SS-N-19) SAM: 4xSextuple SA-N-9 (total 192) 8xTwin Kasthan/Kortik (total 256 SA-N-11)(total 48000 x 30mm rounds for these rounds) Guns: 6xAK-630M(rotary)(total 24000 x 30mm rounds for these mounts) Hull: Horse Jaw/MGK-355 Polinom Ulyanovsk Pr.1143.7(Unfinished): Standard disp: 75000 Speed: 30 Total Aircrafts: 70 (Hangar capacity ?) 16 x Ka-27 2 x Ka-27PS 24 x Su-27K 24 x MiG-29K 4 x Yak-44RLD SSM: 12 x Granit (SS-N-19) SAM: 4xSextuple SA-N-9 (total 192) 8xTwin Kasthan/Kortik (total 256 SA-N-11) Guns: 8 x AK-630M(rotary) Some other data in: http://warfare.ru/?lang=&linkid=1738&catid=268 http://worldweapon.ru/flot/1143.1.php (states 1143.4 SS-N-12 reloads as 12, and her speed as 32 knots). (Note: Post edited 12/24/08 with the data of the two books mentionated in my next two posts).

Even worse, the Genie was an UNGUIDED rocket, not a guided missile !!! http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/r-2.html

Some others previous conclusions about this topic here: http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.php?s...entry9465 Some of my personal deductions in the same place: I supposse the victim is jammee because at 210 n.m. range a lightning bolt icon is positionated over the victim.

Some references about the Kuznetsov's air wing: The last Flight International World Air Force inventory list only 23 Flanker in the Russian Navy (Su-33 and some Su-27 for proficiency/training). The production of the Su-33 is estimated near of only 24 planes. The space occupied for the 12 x SS-N-19 (angled mounts) in the front of the carrier precludes the use of a big underdeck hangar (In my own DB I use a estimated capacity of 52 planes). In the 1995 deployment to Adriatic Sea, his composition was (as Air International and other media of the time): 16 x Su-33 8 x Su-25UTG (carrier training variant, unarmed, production estimated in 10) 10 x Ka-27/32 (maximum 28 x Ka-27/32). Jane's Fighting Ships 2004-2005 (we can read also: "... the russian claim a top limit of 60"): 18x Su-27K 4 x Su-25UTG (carrier training variant, unarmed, production estimated in 10) 15x Ka-27 2 x Ka-27 RDL (Ka-31 AEW) Conway's All The World Fightings Ships 1947-1995: 18- 24 x Su-27K 12-6 x Helix a/C In service estimated dates: CV Kuznetsov: 1991. Ka-25PL Hormone-A: 1967 Ka-25Ts Hormone-B: 1967 http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/ka-25c.php Ka-27PL Helix-A: 1981. Ka-31 Helix-AEW: 1992. (Or 2002: http://www.deagel.com/Tactical-Support-Hel...a000767002.aspx ) Ka-29TB Helix-B(Assault): 1985 http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/ka-29.php i.e. only the more modern Helix in Kuznetsov, I never read about Hormone in the carrier air wing. Also, I think is redundant the use of Ka-25Ts Hormone-B and Ka-27 RDL.

I suppose the author talks about "intelligent and autonomous" mechanical beings, capables of own ethical decisions. We are far of this situation. Our war "robots" are only semiautonomous or remote controlled drones. And this and other relationated topics are well know themes in traditional Science Fiction, as most evident in the "Robots" cycle of Isaac Asimov: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics mmmm, now I remember the up to date digital cameras have face reconigtion sofware, and can detect a face smiling and shot when we're smiling, and in a picture with some subjets, the camera can detect the (previously registred) family or friends faces, and shot the picture only when the registred faces smiled. May be this is a shape of the things to come in artificial intelligence.

Thanks !!

The are dead links, and I dont saw the pictures !Buy I finded in this site: http://www.dlund.20m.com/MMC1.html these pictures: http://www.dlund.20m.com/aa_slideshows/USS...re/gallery.html

Searching for data, I finded a interesting link of a personal study of North Korean warships: http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthrea...aval+Power+2007

Another topic, increase the range of the A-7 radar APQ-126/148, from the unusable 10 n.m. to a more realistic 80 n.m. (but I see now in High Tide is listed with a 150 nm. range). I know our idea of use of the paper rules data, but I read this data clearly some days ago in : http://www.tpub.com/content/MIL-SPEC/MIL-F...81898A00025.htm in 3.4.2.8.3 we can read: "Range coverage: range scales of 5, 10, 20, 40 and 80 sea miles shall be selectable by the pilot"

And in relation at the pirate launch data, I think good the values of RCS=91 and Speed=60 of the pirate launch/missile in the DB, but I've not tested the concept yet, mmm.... more thinking ...

mmmm, a very simple and almost indetectable pirate launch, for pirate scenarios based in the operative procedures of the pirates, the DB has a mother ship (the entry 2450 "Pirate"), but I think we need the autonomous, detached, previously released for the mother ship, pirate launch, i.e. for scenarios based in time of presence of pirate ships and launch in determined sea zones, undetected and potentially hostile. I've read in the paper today also about dhows with occult engines, capables of 25 knots. Hehehe, looking for data, and thinking from the morning about the pirate scenario, just now in the news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7736885.stm ... and with a useful map

Change the Runway from Small Helipad to Large Helipad ?

Very difficult matters to simulate in our HCE, I fear !

Thanks you very much !!! My latest paper copy of Flight International Air Forces inventory is of 16-22 november 2004, but I miss the comments about each air force ....

Finded today by hazard, a schematic view of PLUTO: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/index.htm

About Regulus and other rockets and missiles, his demise, and evolution of this and others high speed-high flight cruise missiles, I think the best internet source is http://www.astronautix.com/ If do you want serious knowledge about this topic, this is a basic source. Two fundamental entries for old supersonic cruise missiles, and some fancy flights .... (My aestetically favorite ? Navaho, of course. Warning !!!! Sometimes very deep text on this site!!!): http://www.astronautix.com/lvfam/uscsiles.htm http://www.astronautix.com/lvfam/sovsiles.htm And the most impressive, Tu-123: "Exotic design for an intercontinental missile using a gas core fission reactor for cruise propulsion. Studied circa 1957. The Tu-123 was an exotic missile design using an airbreathing kerosene/nuclear mixed propulsion engine." http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/tu123.htm

Impressive personal studio of present and future aircraft carriers: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=144822

Another option, finded today in a curious site: http://radarproblems.com/calculators/horizon.htm

Postman arrived today. After 16 years or so, new paper rules and books received, South Atlantic War, White Ensign, Sea of Dragons and High Tide, next days I'll do suscription to Sitrep and old issues. What a lot of stuff! Hurrah !!!

Incredible, we've missed in the DB a plane shot down in air-to-air combat the last month: Zlin 143 !!! hehehe (but I remember, this planes destroyed some Sri Lanka jet fighters in air-to-ground strikes, and I remember, too, some previous request for An-2 and/or Po-2 (WWII and Korean War), we can also think in the MFI-15 in the Biafra's War): Some news reports and some comments: http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2008/08/31/sec03.asp http://www.dailymirror.lk/2007/04/18/life/02.asp http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-44...-Sri-Lanka.html http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/13151 http://s188567700.online.de/CMS/index.php?...4&Itemid=47 http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthrea...8922&page=6 The aircraft: http://www.varman.com/product_aircraft_Z143L.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7#Sri_Lanka http://www.aeronautics.ru/m/gallery008.htm Some pictures: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111061 The MFI-15 and the Count von Rosen, and relationated topics: http://www.combatreform2.com/killerbees3.htm