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More on Swedish ships: - Entry 2190 PTG Norrkoping (1985)-(1985-2005) has the erroneous speed of 50, it should be 40 knots, as in entry 3766 PT Norrkoping (1980)-(1973-1984) (real life speed 40,5 knots). - Entry 3772 ML Alvsborg (1971-2010) has Plane capacity = 1 and "Helo pad aft" mount, but lacks the Runway size = "Small helipad", as in real life.

Found casually when researching about Swedish ships (in concrete the elusive ex-Coast Guard Kbv 172/HMS Skredvisk): http://www.sinbadnavigation.com/flet.php?id=4

Details of the second ship in the series, Normadie. Very interesting description of the Alto/Contralto torpedo decoy and avoidance systems, and detail about the 76mm rounds as some 500+80 rounds total. See also the pictures of Saint Mandrier radar test site. In French, from the Mer et Marine site: http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/la-fremm-normandie-la-loupe

Entry 3103 minelayer Carlskrona (2009) (Swedish Navy) was earmarked in 2007 for AGI conversión to replace Orion, but later the plans changed and was converted in 2009 in OPV (her hull number changed from M04 to P04), and employed at long range in multinational missions as Atalanta in Gulf of Aden. Previously mothballed 2007-2008. Designed as minelayer but actually employed as cadet training ship for the anual cruise and as command ship from her commissioning in 1982. Current configuration cames from mid-life modification in 2002 (forecast to be in service to 2020), and proposed HCDB modifications are: Entry name changed to Carlskrona (2002). Sub Type changed in HCDB from AGI to OPV (in 2009, 1982-2007 her Sub Type should be ML). Add Helo Pad Aft for large helicopter (currently no air capability on DB)(enlarged 2002) but no hangar. Conway's 1947-1995 states from origin small helipad. Guns and weapons: - 1x57mm/70 Bofors MkI fwd (previously another aft, deleted when enlarged the helo pad aft). - 2x single 40mm/70 Bofors, fwd and aft. - 2x Philip Phillax 2º Generation Decoy Launchers (also employed by other Swedish ships previously to circa 1999, as PTM Goteborg (to circa 1998) or Stockholm (to circa 2000) clases)(data from Jane's 2009-2010). - 2x Pirate Launch/RHIB (that is only my idea). - Very probably 2xRBS-70 MANPADS (with 6xReloads?). Conway 1995 states MCM Landsort-class of 1984 have provision for RBS-70 (1990) very probably other main Swedish classes from 1990, perhaps as consequence Visby-class was not equipped with the more advanced Umkhonto SAM. Sensors: - Raytheon FR Series. - Skanter OO9. - Sea Giraffe 50HC (replaces previous Thompson-CSF Saturn, data from Conway 1995). - Sonar Simrad SQ3D/SF (data from Conway 1995, sonar removed, states Jane's 2002). ESM: - Argo AR 700 (data from Jane's 2009-2010). Displacement: - 3130 standard, reinforced and very compartimented hull (data from Conway 1995. Jane's 2002 states 3300 standard). Sources: - Jane's 2002 and 2009-2010. - Conway's 1947-1995. http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Carlskrona_(P04) Also in the Swedish Wikipedia entry for Carlskrona, links to each one of the Royal Swedish Navy current ships.

Great! Thanks Folks! (World War III, here we go!).

Also I see each waypoint of each group increase in great amount the scenario size, but I think can't be a solution to this issue.

Editing a new scenario with the new SE, apparently everything OK. But I'm not sure about the scenario size limit, it's keep at circa 64 Kb?

A minor errour, but with consequences at scenario design, some types of US A-1 Skyraider are not CVL or CV capables: - Entry 10334 A-1E Skyraider, propulsion states "2 engine", should be "2 engine, CVL capable". - Entry 10410 A-1F Electric Spad, propulsion states "2 engine", should be "2 engine, CVL capable".

Researching about old ASW systems: About the Be-6 Madge, most of the data get here, after a painful, long and sometimes funny work with automatic translator (the acronyms in Russian are most of times "translated" in absurd in other terms, in other not-related acronyms or in impossible full texts phrases, "noncircular" should be omnidirectional, "machine" on this context is clearly "aircraft", and not "car", and a lot more): http://www.airwar.ru/enc/sea/be6.html Maximum height 6100 meters/médium. Máximum speed sea level = 203 knots. Máximum speed médium height = 224. Cruise speed sea level = 135. Cruise speed médium height = 140. Máximum range, unloaded = 2700 nm. But the website is a very good site, full of details and with interesting historical and technical descriptions. Worth of visit for all with Russian planes interests. Only 123 Be-6 build. In service 1953. First only employed for sea search and reconnaissance, later adapted and modified for ASW and employed 1954-1969 ASW variant named in full Be-6PLO. ASW variant converted and in service in Black and Baltic Seas in 1954, in Northern Fleet in 1955, in Pacific Fleet in 1956-1957 (in Pacific Fleet many planes converted first only with MAD, Baku systems and sonobuoys added later). Radar is PSBN-M (sometimes called Look Two, also employed by Il-28, Yak-26, Tu-14. Surface search, some 27 nm range, PD=30?), in a retractable dustbin underfuselage. MAD first located in the wing leading edge, later relocated on tail, deleting two of the five 23mm defensive guns. The usual weapons descriptions about bombs are correct, but the torpedos employed were apparently only high altitude dropping unguided antiship torpedoes, 2xBT-45-54 (or sometimes traslated as 45-54VT), not ASW torpedoes, and less the AT-1 (1962) (too weak to be launched from planes, only launched from helicopters) or the SET-40/MGT-2 (1962). More data about the torpedoes here or elsewhere, no contradictions detected about this issue: http://navweaps.com/...n_post-WWII.htm But the more trascendent detail is Be-6PLO was not only equipped with MAD, also has from 1954 the Baku system for sonobuoys, with only 18 channels, and with original capacity only for carry underwing 16 RGBN or RGBN-M passive omnidirectional sonobuoys with some 0,4-0,5 nm range on Harpoon HCE/HUCE (2 meters long, 45 Kg weight, 4 in each of the 4 hardpoints). The Be-6PLO has not bomb bay, but later another 27 sonobuoys of the same type were carried into the fuselage and discharged though hatches. About the ASW weapons employed, from the 16xMPLAB-100 load underwing (apparently designed 1940 and introduced 1944, weight 100 Kg) was developed the PLAB-MK (1955?) of 7,54 kg overall weight, and 0,74 kg high explosive. A Be-6 can load underwing 2, 4 or 6 PLAB-MK pods with 57XPLAB-MK container pods each, weighing each pod 490 Kg. 2/4/6x57 PLAB-MK containers, 490 Kg each. Usual loadouts are 16 x MPLAB-100 underwing+27xsonobuoys in the fuselage, or 4x57x PLAB-MK+27 sonobuoys in the fuselage (6x57x PLAB-MK is at practical effects an overload), or more usually 2x57x PLAB-MK underwing+6/12xSonobuoys underwing+27xSonobuoys into the fuselage. About Russian airborne depth charges: http://uvao.ru/uvao/.../print/o_101716 http://bazalt.ru/ru/...yatii/istoriya/ MPLAB-100 in service date 1944. http://www.airwar.ru..._04/art_04.html More details about his sucessor Be-12 here: http://www.be-12.info/eng/history/ Curiously in Command CMANO the Be-6 is depicted with loadouts very similar to IL-38, with some 216+ sonobuouys of more modern types, as BM-1, BM-2, BM-3.

Researching about old ASW systems: About the Be-6 Madge, most of the data get here, after a painful, long and sometimes funny work with automatic translator (the acronyms in Russian are most of times "translated" in absurd in other terms, in other not-related acronyms or in impossible full texts phrases, "noncircular" should be omnidirectional, "machine" on this context is clearly "aircraft", and not "car", and a lot more): http://www.airwar.ru/enc/sea/be6.html Maximum height 6100 meters/médium. Máximum speed sea level = 203 knots. Máximum speed médium height = 224. Cruise speed sea level = 135. Cruise speed médium height = 140. Máximum range, unloaded = 2700 nm. But the website is a very good site, full of details and with interesting historical and technical descriptions. Worth of visit for all with Russian planes interests. Only 123 Be-6 build. In service 1953. First only employed for sea search and reconnaissance, later adapted and modified for ASW and employed 1954-1969 ASW variant named in full Be-6PLO. ASW variant converted and in service in Black and Baltic Seas in 1954, in Northern Fleet in 1955, in Pacific Fleet in 1956-1957 (in Pacific Fleet many planes converted first only with MAD, Baku systems and sonobuoys added later). Radar is PSBN-M (sometimes called Look Two, also employed by Il-28, Yak-26, Tu-14. Surface search, some 27 nm range, PD=30?), in a retractable dustbin underfuselage. MAD first located in the wing leading edge, later relocated on tail, deleting two of the five 23mm defensive guns. The usual weapons descriptions about bombs are correct, but the torpedos employed were apparently only high altitude dropping unguided antiship torpedoes, 2xBT-45-54 (or sometimes traslated as 45-54VT), not ASW torpedoes, and less the AT-1 (1962) (too weak to be launched from planes, only launched from helicopters) or the SET-40/MGT-2 (1962), employed only from ships. More data about the torpedoes here or elsewhere, no contradictions detected about this issue: http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WTRussian_post-WWII.htm But the more trascendent detail is Be-6PLO was not only equipped with MAD, also has from 1954 the Baku system for sonobuoys (same Bakú system also employed at least by Ka-25 and Mi-4M/ME ASW variants), with only 18 channels, and with original capacity only for carry underwing 16 RGBN or RGBN-M passive omnidirectional sonobuoys with some 0,4-0,5 nm range on Harpoon HCE/HUCE (2 meters long, 45 Kg weight, 4 in each of the 4 hardpoints). The Be-6PLO has not bomb bay, but later another 27 sonobuoys of the same type were carried into the fuselage and discharged though hatches. About the ASW weapons employed, from the 16xMPLAB-100 load underwing (apparently designed 1940 and introduced 1944, weight 100 Kg) was developed the PLAB-MK (1955?) of 7,54 kg overall weight, and 0,74 kg high explosive. A Be-6 can load underwing 2, 4 or 6 PLAB-MK pods with 57XPLAB-MK each container pod, weighing each pod 490 Kg. 2/4/6x57 PLAB-MK containers, 490 Kg each. Usual loadouts are 16 x MPLAB-100 underwing+27xsonobuoys in the fuselage, or 4x57x PLAB-MK+27 sonobuoys in the fuselage (6x57x PLAB-MK is at practical effects an overload), or more usually 2x57x PLAB-MK underwing+6/12xSonobuoys underwing+27xSonobuoys into the fuselage. About Russian airborne depth charges: http://uvao.ru/uvao/ru/pages/print/o_101716 http://bazalt.ru/ru/o_predpriyatii/istoriya/ MPLAB-100 in service date 1944. http://www.airwar.ru/other/kr/kr2002_05/art_04/art_04.html More details about his sucessor Be-12 here: http://www.be-12.info/eng/history/ Curiously in Command CMANO the Be-6 is depicted with loadouts very similar to IL-38, with some 216+ sonobuouys of more modern types, as BM-1, BM-2, BM-3.

I'm also for hardwire ready times into the loadouts set out in the DB. About "by allowing the scenario editor to vary ready times, there is potential to effectively limit magazines.", I think Brad means as me, as example, a very limited scenario of 24-48-72 hours timeplay, centered on Philippines: If the US player has extended load times for B-52 based in Guam (2 to 6 hours), he's actually limiting magazines, in 24 or 72 hours scenarios his posibilities of reload the B-52 are by far more limited that way than if the reload time is 1 hour as in the rest of planes. As consequence, is equivalent to a reduced disponibility of weapons in the base magazines, or representing the supply of weapons to Guam (by air or sea transport), what is limited in time and volumen availability.

Yeah, it's clear Brad, I was thinking also in similar lines, more factible if the scenario is very time limited, as two days maximum or so.

Very interesting and useful site to planning historical scenarios. If you go to http://seavixen.org/893-squadron and click on "Correlation Squadrons/Ships", you will find UK carriers placement along the years (I did find this site just looking for those UK carrier data).

Casually I re-read in the August 2014 issue of Air Forces Monthly (with the B-52 in Fairford) a ground crew chief states the B-52 loadout time is from 30 minutes to 2 hours, in function of the warload.

I think simpy to do customizable and adjustable to the player ideas the ready time for each loadout in the DBs (this as result, I fear it should be of very difficult implementation both in DB editor and GE). About the 5 ready time I think could be the same in some loadouts, as the "Four minute warning" scenario (perhaps 4 minute for this scenario for V-Bombers with nuclear loadouts at the scenario start). If not Grumble's ideas and time values are correct for me.

Reading the Wikipedia entry, probably a great Hayao Miyazaki film (his last animé before retiring) about a semi-fictional biography of Jiro Horikoshi, the Mitsubishi A6M Seke/Zero designer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wind_Rises

ASW loadout 55434 for Shackleton MR.2 and MR.3 has the very slow Mk34 torpedo, employed by US forces 1948-1958 (and retired after introduction in service of Mk43). I didn't see references about his employ by RAF. http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_PostWWII.htm http://www.hnsa.org/doc/jolie/part2.htm I think it should be replaced by Mk44 torpedo, employed by RAF operationally from 1962 (Mk43 torpedo is another option, employed by some British ASW aircraft, as Sikorsky 55/Whirlwind from 1955).

Of probable interest (see the author's CV). Including moves in and out Black Sea, actually a very cool pastime to see and identify warships in and out!: http://turkishnavy.net/about-me/

Perhaps of interest: http://harveyblackauthor.org/tag/blue-steel-missile/

About realistic ready times, I think is very difficult to set them. One of my long time ideas was 30 minutes more reading time for each engine extra in an aircraft (as simple example, one F-16 can have a very simple ready time of 1 hour, one F-15 (with two engines) 1,5 hours, one KC-135 or one P-2H Neptune (both with four engines) 3 hours, ideally a B-52 as consequence (with eight engines) 4,5 hours). Perhaps some modulation on each extra engine type above the first engine on the aircraft (but probably also as consequence also in the first/main engine of the aircraft), perhaps (I've edited the post and refined the idea, my last conclusions are these reflected down here): Examples: Each turbofan=15 minutes. F-16/F-35/Mirage 2000: 1x15=15 minutes. F-15/F-22/Su-27: 2x15=30 minutes. KC-135R/B-1A/B-2A: 4x15=60 minutes/1 hour. An-225 Myra: 6x15=90 minutes/1,5 hours. B-52H: 8x15=120 minutes/2 hours. Each turboshaft/turboprop/plain jet engine=30 minutes, F-104/Mirage F1/AH-1S/Alouette III: 30 minutes F-4/Yak-25/Ar-234/B-66/Breguet Atlantic/An-26: 2x30=60 minutes. AH-1J/CH-53D: 2x30=60 minutes. CH-53E/EH101 Merlin: 3x30=90 minutes/1,5 hours. KC-135A/Avro Vulcan/C-130 Hercules: 4x30=120 minutes/2 hours. B-47 Stratojet: 6x30=180 minutes/3 hours. B-52D: 8x30=240 minutes/4 hours. Each alternative-piston engine=45 minutes. P-51D Mustang/H-47 Sioux: 45 minutes. B-26 Invader/C-47/CH-37 Mojave: 2x45=90 minutes/1,5 hours. B-17 Flying Fortress/Shackleton: 4x45=180 minutes/3 hours. B-36B: 6x45=270 minutes/4,5 hours. Some mixed engines planes: AJ-1 Savage: 2x45=90 minutes (piston) + 1x30=30 minutes (jet) = 120 minutes/2 hours. P-2H Neptune: 2x45=90 minutes (piston) + 2x30=60 minutes (jet) = 150 minutes/2,5 hours. Shackleton MR.3 phase 3: 4x45=180 minutes (piston) + 2x30=60 minutes (jet) = 240 minutes/4 hours. B-36J: 6x45=270 minutes (piston) + 4x30=120 minutes (jet) = 390 minutes/6,5 hours. But I found this, in peacetime operation the reading time of B-52 was LONGER than in the 1991 Gulf War!: B-52 peacetime pre-Desert Storm readying time: 5,5 hours B-52 Desert Storm readying: 1,5 hours (from Ospreys "B-52 Units in Operation Desert Storm", page 69)

Supposing the boat of a swarm sails at 40 knots and is approaching a USN ship to impact his suicide explosive charge against her hull sides: 40nm travelled in 3600 seconds (1 hour). 57mm range at 45º = 7,45 nm , crossed at 40 knots in 670,5 seconds (11,17 minutes) of exposure to 57 mm fire, 2457 shots theorically fired (but remember ammo magazine capacity only some 1200 rounds). 30mm range at 45º = 1,629 nm , crossed at 40 knots in 146,61 seconds (2,44 minutes) of exposure to 30mm fire, 610 shots theorically fired (and probably much more in magazine). As side conclusion, the probability of 57mm gun of stop a swarm should be about the double of the probability to stop the swarm of the 30mm gun (1200 shots fired /610 shots fired =1,96).

In conclusion: - By shell weight in 10 seconds burst 57mm wins almost 5 to 1 (88 Kg/17,70 Kg=4,95). - By range (máximum) 57mm wins almost 5 to 1 (7,45 nm / 1,629 nm = 4,57). - By máximum AA ceiling 57mm wins almost 5 to 1 (4,10 nm / 0,896 nm = 4,57). - By rounds per minute 30mm wins 1,13 to 1 (250 rpm / 220 rpm = 1,13), very scarce advantage counting the other parameters. Magazine ammo capacity aside, considering the same accuracy in both guns, against a boat swarm the very slightly advantage in rounds per minute of the 30mm can't compensate the short range of 30mm. I will look for effective ranges for best comparison.

http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNSweden_57-70_mk123.htm 57mm Mk3: 220 r/m, 2,4 Kg shell weight (3P), 1035 m/s muzzle speed (3P), 200 rounds in mount, 200 in total? range at 45º = 7,45 nm (HE) AA ceiling = 7600 m/4,10 nm, barrel elevation 77º maximum. Shell weight at 10 seconds burst = 36,66 rounds x 2,5 Kg = 88 Kg. http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_30mm_BushmasterII.htm 30mm Mk46 Mod 1: 250 r/m, 0,425 Kg shot weight (API-T), 983 m/s muzzle speed (APFSDS-T), 200 rounds in mount. range = effective 1,08 nm, máximum 1,629 nm AA ceiling = N/A, but barrel elevation only 45º máximum (AA ceiling perhaps only some 1659 meters/0,896 nm) Shot weight at 10 seconds burst = 41,66 rounds x 0,425 Kg = 17,70 Kg.

CMANO inherits Harpoon 3 impossibility to fix a percentage of apparition of platforms on scenarios. It's very difficult for me to think on this parameters to design scenarios.

A few new entries and modifications on the netmarine.net site, dedicated to French Navy. As highlight images of the Naval Revue 2014 near Toulon: http://www.netmarine.net/g/dossiers/revue2014/index.html