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Great! (but I've not idea for a scenario with them .... ).

Thanks! Other ideas: Old Spanish submarines of American origin (the boat names will be employed in the future S-80 series submarines): S-31 (to 1961 with the hull number E-1) Almirante Garcia de los Reyes (ex- SS-370 USS Kraken), Fleet Snorkel type (1959-1981): BQS-2, later replaced from 1975 by the BQR-2B of the deleted S-33, BQS-4C, JT, DUUG-1C, SS-2, WLR-3 (ESM), 18 knots surfaced, 10 knots submerged. Mk14, later added Mk27 Mod 4 and later added Mk37 torpedoes. 6 TT forward, 4 TT aft, 24 torpedoes. http://perso.wanadoo.es/pfcurto/s_31.html http://www.submarinos.net/unidades.php?idSubmarino=27 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarino_Alm...os_Reyes_(S-31) S-32 Isaac Peral (ex SS-396 USS Ronquil), Guppy IIA type (1971-1984): BQR-2B, BQS-4C, DUUG-1C, SS-2, WLR-1/3 (ESM), 18 knots surfaced, 15 knots submerged. Mk14 and Mk37 torpedoes. 6 TT forward, 4 TT aft, 24 torpedoes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ronquil_(SS-396) S-33 Narciso Monturiol (ex SS-382 USS Picuda), Guppy IIA type (1972-1975, retired after major engines breakdown): BQR-2B, BQS-4C, DUUG-1C, SS-2, WLR-1/3 (ESM), 18 knots surfaced, 15 knots submerged. Mk14 and Mk37 torpedoes. 6 TT forward, 4 TT aft, 24 torpedoes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Picuda_(SS-382) S-34 Cosme Garcia (ex SS-385 USS Bang), Guppy IIA type (1972-1982): BQR-2B, BQS-4C, DUUG-1C, SS-2, WLR-1/3 (ESM), 18 knots surfaced, 15 knots submerged. Mk14 and Mk37 torpedoes. 6 TT forward, 4 TT aft, 24 torpedoes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Bang_(SS-385) S-35 Narciso Monturiol (II) (ex SS-368 USS Jallao), Guppy IIA type (1974-1984): BQR-2B, BQS-4C, DUUG-1C, SS-2, WLR-1/3 (ESM), 18 knots surfaced, 15 knots submerged. Mk14 and Mk37 torpedoes. 6 TT forward, 4 TT aft, 24 torpedoes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jallao_(SS-368) http://perso.wanadoo.es/pfcurto/ http://www.submarinos.net/serie.php

Thanks for the hints about the Wikipedia focus and potential conflicts

The Zeppelin is a very appealing topic for me. The last month returning from Berlin I purchase in the Swiss Air flight a watch rememoring the 100 years of Zeppelin (beware, justified adds !!! ) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zeppelin-100-Jahre...1/dp/B000S3376I http://www.watchshop.com/mens-zeppelin-100...CFeontAodmmhgSg Mmmm, a good deal I see, in the plane only 190 euros, not pounds .... And we should remember the number of attacking fighters shoot-down by the defensive Zeppelins: one or none !!!

Names for the S-80 class boats (in French), from Mer et Marine: http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=118768 Isaac Peral, Narcis Monturiol, Cosme Garcia and Mateo Garcia de los Reyes.

More about the same topic (in French), the CDG successor should be lay down in 2020: http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=118711

Reinhard Heydrich! was Interpol president !!!!!: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol

One of the first bad missions of Interpol was returning dissidents to the Nazi Germany ...

For details about the Phantom variants, his uses and years of operations: http://www.joebaugher.com/uscombataircraft.html http://www.joebaugher.com/navy_fighters/f4hphantom.html

You can select a Generic Air Base (INTL, three sizes, you can put them a great number of times in the same scenario, the number it is not limitated to four) place it on the map, and late change his position in the map. And in the Americas DB (HCDA) are both Ascension and RAF Mount Pleasant.

My idea about Harpoon is: make some test scenarios with those premises and slight variations and check the results. Harpoon IS the tool to answer these typus of questions, not our previous thinking and reckoning about the concrete scenario and force disposition ...

The second and last post about the new platforms in the HCDB-120108 only very little typos, great Entry 3645 Type 22/3 (88/2) lacks the ship names. Entry 3681 Abdiel (1987) has RCS=0. Entry 2199 Leander 2B has the ship name Minerva, as entry 2198 Leander 2A, I think it should be the ship name Argonaut. Entry 2202 Type 21 (1983) has not ECM or decoys. Entry 2579 Emilio Jacinto can be updated with the data of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRP_Emilio_Jacinto_(PS-35) adding a Bridgemaster radar, 2x20mm guns, 2x12.7mm MG replacing 7.62mm MG and a 25mm gun aft. Entry 2718 Orla (Peacock) can be uptdated also with the data of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%89_Orla_(P41) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%89_Ciara_(P42) Basically adding 2x20mm guns replacing the 12,7mm MG, and replacing the Radar 1006 with 2xKelvin-Hughes. Entry 3677 Round Table (86) lacks the sensor fit. Entry 2210 Hunt (1989) has a pair of erroneous mounts, probably because are modified from other previous uses: 59987 Mk 29 Aspide aft and 59885 Crotale Naval NG aft (previously Marconi AMD). Entry 3697 Reliant lacks the sensor fit. Entry 3708 Meghna (1984) should have forward a Bofors 57mm/70 Mk1 gun, as per Jane’s 2004-2005.

Aesthetically very impressive! Thanks!

Every new report about the F-35 is ever worse and worsening

I agree. But it must remember the Sea Eagle (1985-2000) was retired in 2000

This site has not technical specifications about the ships, but has detailed operative histories: http://www.historicalrfa.org/rfa-sir-galahad-ships-details

I was in the Argentinian embassy in Berlin the last week for other topics, but we speak briefly about the Malvinas (I say I was named Pooner 2011 ). The Malvinas/Falklands question unifies the opinion of Argentinians of all the political spectrum, but apparently the people is not with the Government if this try to start a military action ... but if it's a "good" government and find a casus belli, pass away the SSN and the other defences (I doubt it very much), and occupy the islands, I doubt the UK will have again the will to retake the islands. The Argentinian people I known think this is an unrealistic and fool target, but they are not the rioters ... We can keep these two viewpoints of the article:

Ships to be named Vladivostok and Sevastopol: http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=118662

A complementary article is on the Air International february 2012 issue.

Thanks for the daily news and thanks for the colourful comments

Very interesting news, thanks.

Very good idea, indeed. I will do it on a while. Complement to the previous link, a reference about the very interesting HMS Girdle Ness, Sea Slug missile test ship: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dytTKHJ...ity&f=false http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/search?f...S%22&query=

About the County class destroyers and the Sea Slug missile, my results about the ships missile-carrying capacity, after a long afternoon of research motivated by the contradictory data about the topic: Originally envisaged to carry 18 or 20 missiles, but magazine enlarged before the ship building. The ships were equipped with: Sea Slug load=24 on the first THREE ships, of them 8 ready to fire (unknown missile-readying time). Sea Slug load=39 on the later FIVE ships, of them 6 ready to fire (unknown missile-readying time). 30 seconds time cycle for two missile salvoes obtained of the 8/6 missiles in the ready to use compartment, beyond the magazine and the flashtight doors. (From British Destroyers & Frigates. The Second World War and After. By Norman Friedman. Chatham Publishing 2006. Pages 181 and sucessives). http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hF8H0D0...ity&f=false

Hi, I was in Berlin the last week. As the last iteration of the HCDB-120108 is very long, I'm going to post here some considerations, and other in succesive post. Entry 3594 KAAN 33 (Turkish PG), values speed=7 and DP=43 are interchanged. Hermes (1982) has only two Seacat mounts, not four as in the DB. Some new old variants of old ships (as CVHG Invincible or Type 42) have reduced sound signature values (40 or so), but the original modern variants of the same ships are keeping the old and higher sound signature values (as 44 or so). Entry 3625 Type 82 Bristol (81) has length, displacement and damage points of a Type 42. Entry 3640 Type 22/1 (80/1) lacks the sensor fit.

File Name: Western Sahara Tin Can Sailors File Submitter: broncepulido File Submitted: 20 Jan 2012 File Category: MEDC Western Sahara Tin Can Sailors, circa 1985: Note: In this scenario, to avoid spoilers, it is better to play the Spanish/Blue side first a few times, and only after play the Polisario Front/Moroccan/Red side, and keeping in mind the special considerations writed in the Red Orders. My aim in this scenario is to capture the flavour of small and very limitated conflicts, almost naval guerrilla warfare. It's also inspired by the recent implementation of the Lepanto/Fletcher class destroyers in the simulation DataBase and of course in the vivid historical events of our recent past. Historical introduction: In the first eighties, when the then modern Descubierta class frigate was introduced in the Spanish Navy, the venerable Pacific War veterans Fletcher class destroyers (nicknamed Los Cinco Latinos) were detached from the original Destroyer Squadron 21 (On that time renamed Escort Squadron 21) homeported in Cartagena, and scattered between the different Spanish local sea commands or Zonas Maritimas. D-21 Lepanto and D-22 Almirante Ferrandiz were from 1980 detached from the Destroyer Squadron 21 and employed on secondary roles as High Seas Patrol ship in the Canary Islands Maritime Zone (Lepanto was later transferred to the Cantabrian Sea Maritime Zone from 1983). This scenario depicts a amalgamation of a series of difficult, confuse, censored and very unknown incidents between the Spanish patrol forces and the Western Saharan Polisario Front and the Moroccan Forces, fighting for the control of the old province of Spanish Sahara. As examples on 1980 Almirante Ferrandiz was apparently straffed by a Moroccan Mirage F1, and on 1985 in other incidente the Anaga class patrol gunboat Tagomago was attacked from the shore by unknown origin 12.7mm and 106mm recoiless shots, causing one dead, and Almirante Ferrandiz was called on her help. After Spain the Western Sahara territory was claimed by the own Saharawis integrated in the Polisario Front, Morocco, Argelia and Mauritania. Both Polisario Front and Morocco were trying to do maritime actions vindicatives of the disputated territory control, basically exercing control of the Spanish and other fishermen traditionally fishing on the Western Sahara bank. Morocco trying it with action as an apparent transnational law enforce, and Polisario Front exerciting attacks with inflatable boats, shore firing and kidnapping of fishermen and his crews. We must remember Western Sahara economy is bases almost exclusively on fishing which employs two thirds of his labour force, but now they are suspictions about the existence of reasonably exploitable off-shore oil fields, but his explotation is today doubtious because the international law. The European Union fishing agreements with Morocco include Western Sahara, but they are many doubts about if this is adjusted to the international law and were denonced as unlawful recently. Note about the map: I've chosed the Mediterranean Sea map because I don't think worth to make another specialized map for this scenario with the Canary Islands adding nothing to the scenario and the playability, and so the installation of the scenario is improved and easier. Western Sahara coast and Canary Islands is some 270 nm southwest of the southwest map corner, but the distances and angles between the bases is the same as in the real world, after a vertical rotation over the horizontal axis and a rightward rotation over the vertical axis. Notes about the platforms: The 802 Squadron Spanish Fokker 27-200 Maritime for SAR duties were actually of a older type, without weapons neither ESM, the Blue player must not use them armed. The 462 Squadron Spanish Mirage F1EE were apparently only trained for the Canary Islands air defence, without surface attack capabilities. Generic unnamed places are: ZYa El Aaioun Airport GSAI/GMML, Western Sahara. ZZa Sidi Ifni Airport GMMF, Morocco. AAs Gando Air Base GCLP, Canary Islands, Spain. Enrique Mas, January 2012 Click here to download this file