Hello,

Another question. I've noticed that some planes crash rather consistently and quickly when flying at very low level. I've also found that it seems like I've been able fly F-16s at very low level quite a lot without losing any of them. Is there a rule of some kind, modern planes can do it, older planes can't? Some planes can, some planes can't? Am I imagining this? Does speed matter? If this is indeed the case, does anyone know which planes you can fly at vlow and which you can't?

thanks,

Czo

Hello,

Another question. I've noticed that some planes crash rather consistently and quickly when flying at very low level. I've also found that it seems like I've been able fly F-16s at very low level quite a lot without losing any of them. Is there a rule of some kind, modern planes can do it, older planes can't? Some planes can, some planes can't? Am I imagining this? Does speed matter? If this is indeed the case, does anyone know which planes you can fly at vlow and which you can't?

thanks,

Czo

You're not imagining it. Planes with a particular setting can flow very low, otherwise they have a probability of crashing and invariably do. The setting is only visible if you go into the Platform Editor, the setting is a 'Flag' item called 'NOE - Nap of the Earth' (I've no idea what that means).

If you don't want to open the Platform editor then my only suggestion is to do a game save (ctrl S) and alter speed to vlow, if you dont get a crash within a few minutes of game time you're probably safe with that plane, if you do you'll have to restart the game and keep to low. This is fiddly but after a while you learn what can flow vlow and what can't.

Hope this helps

Don is correct. As a rough rule of thumb, most modern strike/attack aircraft with a terrain following/terrain avoidance radar (in the game, a surface search radar) will be capable of Vlow flight.

 

Generally speaking, nap of the earth (i.e. hugging the ground or terrain following) refers to flight at 200 feet or less.

I recall seeing another post about this awhile ago as well. Is there a way to have this show up in game in the platform display or something?

 

David

I recall seeing another post about this awhile ago as well. Is there a way to have this show up in game in the platform display or something?

 

David

 

No, but please add the request to your Wishlist if you haven't already.

If enough people think its worthwhile, I can probably add the term 'NOE' to the aircraft description as an interim solution.

If enough people think its worthwhile, I can probably add the term 'NOE' to the aircraft description as an interim solution.

Yes, I think the flag codes would be included in the aircraft description, at least I've include it in the plane description of the DBs made with Divefreak

If enough people think its worthwhile, I can probably add the term 'NOE' to the aircraft description as an interim solution.

 

Add my vote for it being worthwhile. And thank you for all the work you put into doing this for us!

If enough people think its worthwhile, I can probably add the term 'NOE' to the aircraft description as an interim solution.

 

Add my vote for it being worthwhile. And thank you for all the work you put into doing this for us!

I also think it would be worth while. A quite discouraging thing when you think you remember a plane being vlow capable, then you crash three at 30:1 time compression

(IFR??)

If enough people think its worthwhile, I can probably add the term 'NOE' to the aircraft description as an interim solution.

 

Add my vote for it being worthwhile. And thank you for all the work you put into doing this for us!

I also think it would be worth while. A quite discouraging thing when you think you remember a plane being vlow capable, then you crash three at 30:1 time compression

(IFR??)

Yes, that is my idea, to include NOE, IFR, RWR, ESM and other relevant flag codes ...

A great idea especially NOE

I guess that NOE wouldn't apply to the older battlesets? I know thet the omly things that can fly VLow in the Original Battleset are Harriers and Helos; I'm not sure about the others.

I think the F-111s could doe NoE as well. Maybe the Su-24s, too.

I think the F-111s could doe NoE as well. Maybe the Su-24s, too.

 

I believe in the original DB that the F-111 couldn't.

If enough people think its worthwhile, I can probably add the term 'NOE' to the aircraft description as an interim solution.

 

While that would be great, Brad, it's not the ones in the CDB/editable DBs that I would like to see labeled. I can check PE for those. It's the ones in the old DBs that I'd like to see statused for NoE.