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File - HCCW-140314 (1950-75 era)

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French aircraft carriers: Clemenceau, Foch, Arromanches, Dixmude, Bois Belleau,La Fayette (but most of the carried aircraft types are present on the DB!).

Arromanches and internal links: http://www.netmarine.net/bat/porteavi/arromanc/index.htm

 

 

 

CVB-41 USS Midway and CVB-42 USS F.D. Roosevelt.

 

I have added all of these, and they will appear in the next iteration. Any further requests before I kick a new version out the door later this week?

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  • Because I know you will write scenarios with these (and that is the single-most important factor at play here), I will make an exception and include these post 1975, (in)famous platforms.

  • All this work on the HCCW database makes a guy want to watch The Bridges at Toko-Ri.

  • Heh, yes, definitely an error there. I will look at it and you can expect a fix in the next version.

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Wow, thanks, I will do some recapitulation about it and previous requests (from me and other players, mmostly some indicated by TeTeT here about installations and targets: http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.php?/topic/11495-hce-cold-war-database-hccw-requests/?p=24646 ):

Vietnam-oriented platforms as indicated by TeTeT (almost all the rest of request present now in the DB!!!):

 

EKA-3B Skywarriors (1968?-1989): tanker and jammer, perhaps only with RWR but not ESM. 4xALQ-86 ECM fuselage blisters, ALQ-126 and ALQ-100 SLAR. 34+5 planes, converted from KA-3B and A-3B. Estimated ranges: 2520 nm in ECM patrol, and 2867 as tanker.

 

Give some air-to-ground ordnance to the USAF F-104C, and add RWR from 1966.

 

EF-4C Wild Weasel IV (10/1969-1972?): no IRST, yes ESM, ALQ-101/119, 36 converted, employed by 67 TFS of 18 TFW, Kadena and Thai bases, and by 81 TFS of 52 TFW Spangdhalem. Shrike-capable but not Standard-capable. Same systems than EF-105F. Loadout simple: 2xShrike+2xAIM-7+1xALQ-71/87(later ALQ-119)+2xDT(+4xCBU).

 

Some brown water USN boats? (but probably they are out of scale).

Some more personal requests, for the Suez Campaign and related scenarios:

 

A new idea for this and other uses, Generic Air Bases without radar (in 1956 not were radars at Syria and few in Egypt, as example).

 

Westland Wyvern TF/S.4 (1953-1958), mostly for flavour, we can use Skyraiders.

 

Sea Venom FAW.21 (1954-1960?), less powerful Ghost 104 turbojet (almost as the Ghost 105-equipped FAW.22 but without the Firestreak loadout, that new entry could help in historical scenarios, as Firestreak was employed only from 1958).

 

RB-29 Washington, 192 Sqn RAF (1953-1957), very secret and very few times mentioned. Based at Cyprus in the crisis.

 

Meteor F.8 for Israel, RAF and other Arab States.

 

Meteor FR.9 for Israel, RAF and other Arab States.

 

Meteor NF.11/13 (with SCR-720/AI Mk. X/AI.10 radar), employed in Arab-Israeli wars and elsewhere (now it's only present a pair of Argentinian variants. Also of interest can be the NF.12/14 with AI.21 radar). Meteor NF.13 is for Israel, RAF and other Arab States (and other uses, as shoot-down Egyptian ministers flying in Il-14).

 

Mosquito FB.6, PR.16 and NF.30 (with APS-4).

 

North American Harvard/IIB/Texan (at least an International type, widely used also in COIN wars elsewhere).

 

Spitfire F.22 for Egypt.

 

Westland Sycamore HR.14 (1953-1972).

 

AD-5W/EA-1E Skyraider (1953-1972, USN).

 

Canberra B.6R (BS)(1954-1976) and B.2 (recce-BS)(1953-1974) with Blue Shadow SLAR (for pathfinding, not a must).

 

Whirlwind HAS.22 initial ASW helicopter (1954-1957) (15 transferred ex USN HO4S-1).

 

Whirlwind HAR.2/3 (1954?+), but at least is represented by Whirlwind HAR.5 in the DB.

 

Minor types for this and other uses: Piper Cub (was employed even as light attack plane by Israel), Airspeed Consul (Israel and others), Bell Sioux/GH-3 (INTL), Westland Sycamore HR.12/HC.14 (UK), Auster AOP6 (INTL, RAF, Israel and others),

 

 

Other planes for previous and other Middle East and generic conflicts:

 

Lancaster (Egypt), Halifax (Egypt), Spitfire F.22 (Egypt and Syria), Macchi 205/V (Egypt at least), Avia S.199 (bad Me-109 derivative employed as stop-gap fighter by Israel), Fiat G.55/59 (Syria), Curtiss C-46 Commando, Bristol Freighter (not problem, another transport types can be employed).

 

Some ships:

 

DD Chieftain, Chevron and Chaplet (and all the Ch class).

For the Indo-Pakistani conflicts:

 

The new entry 11333 MiG-21FL Fishbed (India,Thanks!) should be equipped also with the 56036 loadout, it was equipped with the 23mm detachable gun pack (also the 50 MiG-21FL exported to Egypt, but only after the 1967 War, I've not an initial date for 23mm gun in Indian MiG-21FL, but I suppose it should be in service in 1971. Also, this 56036 loadout should be deleted from some MiG-21PF Fishbed D entries, never equipped with gun).

Aircraft for generic scenarios:

 

B-29A (1944-1960, and widely employed in the Korean War), KB-29P (1950-1960) B-29 Superfortress variants, including RB-29 with ESM.

Also the RAF variants Washington B.1 (87 delivered 1950 on) and the three very secret RB-29 Washington with ESM.

 

B-50 bomber variants (perhaps the B-50D, 222 built), and RB-50 variants with ESM.

 

B-36B Peacemaker (1948-1952), B-36D Peacemaker (1951-1954), RB-36D/E Peacemaker (1951-1954), B-36F Peacemaker (1951-1954), RB-36F Peacemaker (1951-1954), B-36H Peacemaker (1953-1954), B-36H-III Peacemaker (1954-1958), B-36J(III) Peacemaker (1954-1959), RB-36H-III Peacemaker, ten-engined Convair B-36 Peacemaker variants (but not a must, curiously at least I'm not any idea about scenarios with them).

 

M-4 Bison-A (1954+), 3M/3MS Bison-B (1958+) types.

 

North American Harvard IID/T-6G Texan, widely employed in Colonial, COIN and Arab-Israeli wars.

 

Piper L-18 Cub, Cessna O-1 Bird Dog, Auster AOP6, Cessna O-2 Skymaster, or similar types, widely employed as FAC.

 

Fouga Magister with air-to-air MG (for shooting-down some DC-6 with UN Secretary General on board).

 

Also F6F Hellcat and F8F Bearcat variants for use by French forces in Indochine and other theatres.

 

Westland Scout army observation/light attack helicopter (widely used in this time period).

 

Mil Mi-1 Hare (INTL, at present only present a rare Finland type).

 

Ka-15 Hen (probably the first shipborne Soviet helo, 1955-1962, but not a must).

Korean War aircrafts, some were added, these not:

 

Fairey Firefly AS.6 (1951-1956) ASW variant, perhaps with 2xDC Mk11 and 12xT-1945 sonobuoys (not a must).

 

Yak-9P Frank (1946-1953).

 

La-11 (not a must).

 

Yak-18 (not a must).

 

Po-2/U-2LNB Mule (1942+)

 

Tu-2 (Chinese or INTL).

 

Mig-9 (Chinese or at least INTL).

 

F-82G Twin Mustang (1948-1953).

 

Generic or USAF F-51D.

 

F-7F-3N Tigercat for the USMC.

 

Supermarine Seafire F.47 (RN) (and also Seafire F.III and F.XV for French use in Indochina).

 

F-94A/B Starfire (1950-1958), (and the rocket-armed F-94C (1953-1959) for other scenarios).

 

RB-26C/L Invader (1944-1964), B-26B Invader (1944-1964), B-26C Invader (1944-1964), B-26K Counter Invader (1964-1973), Douglas Invader variants (The Douglas A-26 Intruder adquired the designation B-26 after the Martin B-26 Marauder was retired in 1948). Useful also for a lot of scenarios: Cuba, Africa, Indochine, Vietnam... (edit, now is present in the HCCW DB at least a Cuban B-26).

 

Convair OY-1 (reading my own notes about types employed in Korea, but I dont remember who is this animal! Oh, it's the nimble Stinson L-5 Sentinel variant for USMC).

Other generic requests:

 

P2V-5FS/SP-2E Neptune (1956-1963).

 

RF-101A/C Voodoo (1957-1971) requested by TeTeT (Also the DB lacks other basic F-101 Voodoo variants, the all-weather AAM missile equipped F-101B/F Voodoo (1959-1971) or F-101B/F Voodoo (1963-1985)).

 

Martin P5M-2S/SP-5B Marlin (also for French use 1959-1964 from Dakar, http://www.ffaa.net/...n/marlin_fr.htm).

 

F3H-2N/F-3C Demon, F3H-2M/MF-3B Demon.

 

A3D-2/A-3B Skywarrior (1957-1967)(in the DB it's only present the smaller in numbers A3D/A-3A, not the A-3B).

 

Most of the USN Tracker variants:

 

S2F-1S/S-2B Tracker (1956?+).

 

S-2A/C Tracker (1954+)(it's present a Japanese S2F-1/S-2A in the DB)(The S2F-2/S-2C was in use from 1955, with bulged bomb bay and equipped with nuclear depth bombs, Betty 1954-1960, later Mk 101 Lulu 1958-1971).

 

S2F-3/S-2D Tracker (1960+).

 

AD-5W/EA-1E Skyraider (1953-1972), AEW plane with APS-20A/C.

 

HSS-1/SH-34G Seabat, Sikorsky 58, (8/1955-1964?),AQS-4, the DB lacks the USN variant.

 

HSS-1N/SH-34J Seabat Sikorsky 58 (1955-1964), all weather variant, AQS-5,lacks a USN variant.

 

These ASW helicopters probably not were in service in 1962, and they're not a must:

 

HUP-2S 1953?, Dipping sonar.

 

HO4S-1/2/H-19A, Sikorsky 55, (8/1950+) (none in 1962?).

 

HO4S-3/H-19B Horse, Sikorsky 55, AQS-4 sonar.

 

Submarines:

 

Zulu-class with nuclear torpedoes.

I'm working in a table about the confuse CV-9 Essex class and his modernizations (based on many books aand evidence on navsource.org potos), but it will late.

But as simplification we can add more ship names to the two modernized Essex types present on the DB:

 

Entry 2074 Essex (SCB-125/52)(1/55-76), 8x127mm singles in open mounts, 6x2x76mm mounts, mostly with SPS-6C/D, SPS-8, SPS-10, SPN-6 radars fit, naval ECM Gen 1 (TDY and later). The conversion is independent of her dedication to CVS or CVA. Speed 32 knots:

Intrepid

Yorktown

Randolph

Wasp

Bennington

Kearsarge

Antietam (angled deck test, not full SCB-125 conversion, keeps 4x2x127mm turrets)

Hornet

Ticonderoga (to 1973)

Bon Homme Richard (to 1971)

Hancock (to 1976?)

Oriskany (to 1976)

Shangri La

Essex

Lexington

 

Entry 2077 Essex (SCB-144/61)(3/61-74), and also increasing the aircraft capacity to 95, as some were employed after the SCB-144 conversion as CVA, some 4x127mm singles in open mounts, 76mm all deleted, mostly with the SPS-30, SPS-43A, SPS-10, SPN-6, navigation radar, radars fit and SQS-23 (in some CVS, details below), naval ECM Gen 1 (TDY and later) and DECM Gen 1 (ULQ-6 and others?). The conversion is independent of her dedication to CVS or CVA, some few changing from one to another task, all the classified as CVS were classified CVS previously to her SCB-144 conversion, when classified CVS lossed all the 76mm guns. Speed 30 knots.:

Hancock

Intrepid SCB-144/FRAM II 1966 and SQS-23.

Hornet SCB-144/FRAM II 7/64-2/65 and SQS-23.

Randolph SCB-144/FRAM II 3/1961 and SQS-23.

Wasp SCB-144/FRAM II 1964 and SQS-23.

Kearsarge SCB-144/FRAM II 1962 and SQS-23.

Bon Homme Richard

Essex SCB-144/FRAM II 3/62-9/62 and SQS-23.

Lexington

Ticonderoga

Bennington SCB-144/FRAM II 9/62-3/63 and SQS-23.

Yorktown SCB-144/FRAM II 2/67-10/67 but was the only limited SCB-144 conversion without SQS-23.

 

Other Essexes retains straight flight deck, of them three converted later to LPH, some or all straight decks (the LPHs?) with FRAM II benefits, and other two dont reactivated post war.

The LPH conversion losed four boilers, power fall from 150000 shp to 75000, and máximum speed from 33 to 25 knots.

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EKA-3B Skywarriors (1968?-1989): tanker and jammer, perhaps only with RWR but not ESM. 4xALQ-86 ECM fuselage blisters, ALQ-126 and ALQ-100 SLAR. 34+5 planes, converted from KA-3B and A-3B. Estimated ranges: 2520 nm in ECM patrol, and 2867 as tanker.

I believe the EKA-3B fuselage blisters held ALQ-92 jammers (mostly for jamming GCI datalinks). The ALQ-100 was a track breaker (DECM), but I am not sure the EKA-3B also carried the ALQ-126 (another, later track breaker). Source(s)?

Yes, most probably ALQ-92, as stated here:

http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/jetds/an-alq2aly.html (probably with ESM, ALR-28 and others).

and here:

http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Tacjammer.html

I think it was one of my old notes, I believe based in a 1980s Air Fan magazine description.

Also, were most or all reconverted to KA-3B from 1975 without ECM gear.

(in another of my cryptic notes, about ALQ-100: "E/F/G/H-Band Track-Breaker ¿Also designation for SLAR in early EKA-3B?", probably based in another old erroneous description).

About the EKA-3B ECM gear fit, at last I think that can be an ultimate answer, as stated on page 28 of Rene Francillon with Ed Heinemann's (!!!) "Douglas A-3 Skywarrior", Aerograph 05, Aerofax 1987:

APN-153(V) doppler radar (navigation?).

2xALT-27

ALT-92

ALR-28

ALR-29

ALR-30

APR-32

2xALQ-41

2xALQ-51

ALA-3 or ULA-2

APA-69

2xALE-2(M)

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Almost forget this one, Harrier variants, they are few, but peculiar:

 

The AV-8A (1971-1987), Pegasus 103/11 21500 lb thrust, is the only one of the family currently present in the HCCW DB.

Is erroneously equipped with RWR in the DB (only present after, on the AV-8C conversions employed from 1979 to end of service in 1997, and with ALE-40 added. The Spanish AV-8S (1976-1997) were also devoid of RWR, but adding ESM from 1987).

And lacks the in flight refuelling capability (probably a transposition of flag codes). Because his short legs, the Harrier needs this capacity in the game to do transfer flights between different bases in some scenarios (as in some historical cases happened when was necessary to deploy Harriers in crisis places).

 

The HCCW lacks the RAF variants, of easy addition, more with the current loadouts.

 

Harrier GR.1 (4/1969-1971?), no RWR, flight refuelling capability, Pegasus 101/6 19000 lb thrust. 61 planes.

 

Harrier GR.1A (1971?-1975?), no RWR, flight refuelling capability, Pegasus 102/10 20500 lb thrust. 17 new build and 41 rebuild from GR.1. Probably GR.1 and GR.1A can be depicted in one sole HCCW entry.

 

Harrier GR.3 (1976?-1993), with RWR and laser rangefinder in modified nose, flight refuelling capability, Pegasus 103/11 21500 lb thrust. 40 new build and 61 rebuild from previous types.

 

And just discovered this interesting site:

http://www.harrier.org.uk/history/index.htm

http://www.harrier.org.uk/history/history_production.htm

 

But cites some units fully converted to GR.3 in 1975, showing (as my previous data) the first GR.3 were built in 1976!!!

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Silly me, asking for more DB requests. Like calling for fire support on your own coordinates. :rolleyes:

 

Once again, thanks a lot, Enrique. Your help with the database work here at HG is truly superb. B)

 

Aircraft for generic scenarios:
B-29A (1944-1960, and widely employed in the Korean War), KB-29P (1950-1960) B-29 Superfortress variants, including RB-29 with ESM. Also the RAF variants Washington B.1 (87 delivered 1950 on) and the three very secret RB-29 Washington with ESM.


What's your source for the RB-29 with ESM? Which equipment in particular?

Oh, don't mean on it, I've not researched it, I will do some homework ... :)

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