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File - HCCW-140314 (1950-75 era)

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Thanks for the recent update! I just noticed that it says Hanoi, Vietnam South instead of Hanoi, Vietnam North.

 

Oops, thanks for picking up this error.

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Hi Brad,

 

I am pretty sure Angola did not get the MiG-23 until 1984 and then got MiG-23ML

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Hi Brad, I am pretty sure Angola did not get the MiG-23 until 1984 and then got MiG-23ML

 

Yeah, I am not terribly concerned about when a particular country received the type, but rather when the type generally came into service.

 

As to whether they received the Flogger E at all, my Harpoon4 source says they did and that's good enough for me.

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I'm on travel with a few spare time, but after download the splendid Cold War DB I see the version downloads is 120315, not the updated 120518 :(

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I'm on travel with a few spare time, but after download the splendid Cold War DB I see the version downloads is 120315, not the updated 120518 :(

 

Thanks, Enrique. I noticed this error this morning while exporting the new version of the HCDB.

 

It has since been resolved and I have replaced the file with what will now be HCCW-120522.

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Some simple ideas for the DB next iteration, basically are mentioned only types with historical transcendency or real use in historical campaigns, some can be simple variants of present types, almost all the types depicted with employ years are in the Divefreak and me 1950-1965 DB:

 

Aircraft for generic scenarios:

U-2A (1955-1962?), U-2C (1959-1977), U-2F (1961-1977), U-2G/H (1963-1977), Lockheed U-2 Dragonlady earlier variants.

 

Ka-15 Hen (probably the first shipborne Soviet helo, 1955-1962).

 

Westland Wasp (widely used naval helo in this time period).

 

B-29A (1944-1960), KB-29P (1950-1960) B-29 Superfortress variants, including RB-29 with ESM.

 

B-50 variants, including KB-50 and RB-50 with ESM.

 

B-36B Peacemaker (1948-1952), B-36D Peacemaker (1951-1954), RB-36D/E Peacemaker (1951-1954), B-36F Peacemaker (1951-1954), RB-36F Peacemaker (1951-1954), B-36H Peacemaker (1953-1954), B-36H-III Peacemaker (1954-1958), B-36J(III) Peacemaker (1954-1959), RB-36H-III Peacemaker, ten-engined Convair B-36 Peacemaker variants.

 

TBM-3E (1945-1960), TBM-3Q (with ESM, 1946-1954), TBM-3S (1946-1960), TBM-3W (AEW with APS-20A/C, 1946-1960), Avenger AS.3M (Canada 1954-1960), Grumman Avenger variants.

 

F-89B/C Scorpion (1951-1959), F-89D Scorpion (1954-1962), F-89H Scorpion (1956-1961), F-89J Scorpion (1957-1969), Northrop F-89 Scorpion variants.

 

M-4 Bison-A (1954+), 3M/3MS Bison-B (1958+) (now it's only present the tanker variant).

 

North American Harvard IID/T-6G Texan, widely employed in Colonial and Arab-Israeli wars.

 

Piper L-18 Cub, Cessna O-1 Bird Dog, Cessna O-2 Skymaster, widely employed as FAC.

 

Fouga Magister with air-to-air MG (for shooting-down some DC-6 with UN Secretary General on board).

 

Also F6F Hellcat and F8F Bearcat variants for use by French forces in Indochine and other theatres.

 

Some generic targets as trucks or building types.

Korean War aircrafts:

 

 

Sea Fury FB.11 (UK 1948-1954)(it's present a Cuban variant in the DB).

 

Firefly FR.1 (1944-1952), Firefly FR.5 (1948-1954), Firefly AS.6 (1951-1956), Fairey Firefly variants.

 

Vought Corsair variants F4U-4B (1945-1956), F4U-5 (1946-1956), F4U-5N (1946-1956), (it's present a Argentinian variant in the DB, can be also be useful the F4U-7 French (1953-1964) variant for Colonial Scenarios).

 

AD-4NA/A-1D Skyraider (1950-1959).

 

Yak-9P Frank (1946-1953).

 

Il-10M Beast (1951-1962).

 

La-11 (not a must)

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Yak-18 (not a must).

 

Po-2/U-2LNB Mule (1942+)

 

Tu-2 (Chinese).

 

Mig-9 (Chinese).

 

F-82G Twin Mustang (1948-1953).

 

F9F-2 Panther (1949-1958), F9F-2P Panther (1950-1956), F9F-4 (USMC, not a must), F9F-5/F-9E Panther (1950-1958), F9F-5P Panther (1952-1958) (Also others F9F variants for other scenarios, it's present only one F9F-2 Argentinian versión).

 

Convair OY-1 (reading my own notes about types employed in Korea, but I dont remember who is this animal! Oh, it's the nimble Stinson L-5 Sentinel variant for USMC).

 

F-84E Thunderjet (1949-1959).

 

F-7F-3N Tigercat for the USMC.

 

F2H-2 Banshee (1949-1956), F2H-2P Banshee (1950-1960).

 

Supermarine Seafire F.47 (RN) (and also Seafire F.III and F.XV for French use in Indochina).

 

F-94A/B Starfire (1950-1958), (and the rocket-armed F-94C (1953-1959) for other scenarios).

 

RB-26C/L Invader (1944-1964), B-26B Invader (1944-1964), B-26C Invader (1944-1964), B-26K Counter Invader (1964-1973), Douglas Invader variants (The Douglas A-26 Intruder adquired the designation B-26 after the Martin B-26 Marauder was retired in 1948). Useful also for a lot of scenarios: Cuba, Africa, Indochine, Vietnam...

Arab-Israeli Wars:

 

Gloster Meteor F.4, F.8, FR.9, NF.11/13 (with SCR-720/AI Mk. X/AI.10 radar), employed in Arab-Israeli wars and elsewhere (now it's only present a pair of Argentinian variants. Also of interest can be the NF.12/14 with AI.21 radar).

 

Spitfire LF.9 (Israel, or a generic Spitfire for many Colonial or Third World scenarios).

 

Spitfire F.22 (Egypt, Syria).

 

Mosquito FB.6, FR.16, NF.30 (Israel).

 

Avia S.199 (Israel).

 

B-17 (Israel).

 

Lancaster (Egypt).

 

Fiat G.55/59 (Syria).

 

Sea Venom FAW.21 (1954-1960?) (almost as FAW.22 but without the Firestreak loadout, also, Firestreak employed only from 1958).

 

Westland Wyvern TF/S.4 (1953-1958).

 

Sycamore HR.14 (1953-1972).

 

Canberra B.6R (BS)(1954-1976) and B.2 (recce-BS)(1953-1974) with Blue Shadow SLAR (for pathfinding, not a must)

 

F9F-8B/AF-9J Cougar (1954-1959), F9F-8P/RF-9J Cougar (1955-1960), (USN).

 

AJ-2/A-2B Savage (1951-1957) (USN).

 

AD-5W/EA-1E Skyraider (1953-1972, USN).

 

F2H-4/F-2D Banshee (1953-1959).

 

FJ-3/F-1C Fury (1954-1963), FJ-3M/MF-1C (1956-1963), FJ-3D (Apparently to guide carrier-launched Regulus missiles to his target!!!), North American FJ Fury variants.

 

Whirlwind HAS.22 (1954-1957) (15 transferred ex USN HO4S-1).

 

Whirlwind HAR.2/3 (1954?+).

 

Vickers Valetta C.1.

 

Handley Page Hastings C.1/2.

 

Some ships:

BB Jean Bart (and Richelieu)

CL Georges Leygues

DD Chieftain, Chevron and Chaplet (and all the Ch class).

Aircrafts:

 

P2V-5FS/SP-2E Neptune (1956-1963).

 

RF-101A/C Voodoo (1957-1971) (Also the DB lacks other basic F-101 Voodoo variants, as F-101B/F Voodoo (1959-1971) or F-101B/F Voodoo (1963-1985)).

 

Martin P5M-2S/SP-5B Marlin (also for French use 1959-1964 from Dakar, http://www.ffaa.net/seaplanes/marlin/marlin_fr.htm).

 

F3H-2N/F-3C Demon, F3H-2M/MF-3B Demon.

 

A3D-2/A-3B Skywarrior (1957-1967)(in the DB it's only present the smaller in numbers A-3A, not the A-3B).

 

S2F-1S/S-2B Tracker (1956?+).

S-2A/C Tracker (1954+)(it's present a Japanese S2F-1/S-2A in the DB)(The S2F-2/S-2C was in use from 1955, with bulged bomb bay and equipped with nuclear depth bombs, Betty 1954-1960, later Mk 101 Lulu 1958-1971).

S2F-3/S-2D Tracker (1960+).

 

AD-5Q/EA-1F Skyraider (1953-1979), ECM plane.

AD-5W/EA-1E Skyraider (1953-1972), AEW plane with APS-20A/C.

 

HSS-1/SH-34G Seabat, Sikorsky 58, (8/1955-1964?),AQS-4

HSS-1N/SH-34J Seabat Sikorsky 58 (1955-1964), all weather variant, AQS-5

 

These ASW helicopters probably not were in service in 1962, and they're not a must:

HUP-2S 1953?, Dipping sonar.

HO4S-1/2/H-19A, Sikorsky 55, (8/1950+) (none in 1962?).

HO4S-3/H-19B Horse, Sikorsky 55, AQS-4 sonar.

 

Submarines:

Zulu-class with nuclear torpedoes.

A few minor errors or typos in the HCCW database:

 

Fairey Gannet variants are equipped with 10 sonobuoys (a number closer to the number of SB carried by similiar size contemporary ASW planes), not a scarce 4, as stated in http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1954/1954%20-%201893.html

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=96591

(after a very long research I only finded this source, apparently reliable).

 

Entry 2887, Netherlands CVL Karel Doorman (58) has plane capacity=0 !!!

It should be=26 (this was the origin of the aircraft carriers research of the last weekend!). Wikipedia states 26 planes, 10xSea Hawk, 14xAvenger, 2xS-58 (also, we can need some Netherlands Navy ships, as his big cruisers).

 

Some confusion in the guns and loadouts of the Australian Sabre variants:

Loadout 55324 should to be deleted from the entry 10253 Sabre Mk 32 and from the entry 10254 Sabre Mk 31 and restored to MG armament for his continued use with the F-86F (it's employed by all the F-86F Sabre). Entry 10254 Sabre Mk 31 should be simply reequipped with the 55296 loadout of the entry 10253 Sabre Mk 32.

 

Entry 10307 Sea Hawk FB.3 lacks the carrier capable flag.

 

Entry 2497, CA Salem (1960) (Sometimes called Des Moines class) is equipped with 152mm Mk16 guns in triple turrets, she should be equipped with 203mm/55 Mk16 guns (I think it was only for sake of simplicity, they're not present any type of 203mm gun in the DB). Observe not all the Des Moines class CA are equipped with Mk16 guns, are others with Mk15 guns: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8%22/55_caliber_gun

Also, we can add the shipname Salem to the entry, she was decommissioned as late as 30 January 1959.

 

Thanks!

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