JRyan

I think he should be given some special award at any rate for his contribution to this community. He'll be much missed. by ALL means I agree. Maybe an exception to the rule applies?

2nd that!

Does anyone know what happened? I was so depressed and shocked. Somehow we need to get word to his family just how much he meant to a lot of people. RIP Bucks..

Thanks ! I hope it was playable and you enjoy it, I've not spare time this year, and is one of the few scenarios I've not played to the end ... Well I met the victory conditions but kept playing and then crossed to the lose side, but I had totally wiped the enemy but at VERY high cost. Good Scenario.....very interesting and surprising..

This was very interesting, and UNIQUE. I did not expect this from Harpoon. I had a lot of fun so I will not spoil this one.. Great Job!

I am in shock! Darren I have no doubt that you are sailing that great sea upstairs. You will be dearly missed. RIP and God Speed....

This is a tough scenario, I will post my play by play and stats....If you haven't played this one, I recommend you do.. Iran-Israel 2010, Survival of Israel? Read orders.....Must Destroy Targets -Bushehr comprising his nuclear reactor (ZPa) -the Nuke Sites 1 (YSb), 2 (YRb) and 3 (YQb), -the Terror Camps 1 (YDa), 2 (YCa) and 3 (YBa), -and the TBM Site (YFb) *** Near Terehan *** (first you must to localize some of those targets). (Zero-time) Study layout, Locate targets... Very Large Scenario - ..... (YfB) Shall be the first target to protect from any ballistic Missile Launches...... (900 miles one way - Tankers needed) *** Relocate aircraft to different bases, for ease of tracking. *** Ballistic Missle attack! (4) inbound ARROW SAMS got em...! ** Surface target - Ship... 2 Missiles take it out. Pirate vessel ** SSM sites, launch F16's, 30 of them, Katyusha Rockets also seen. ** More Ships,2 locations, Launch Gabriel F16's.... (6) Merchants sunk, one fired SAM?...(1) More Merchant...Sunk..Another Spotted North of Cyprus. **10 Merchants sunk so far, 3 have fired SAMS?. **9 Katyusha Sites destroyed, 6 SA7 sites. AC Ratio 25/2 ( 2 F16's were shot down upon returning to Israel Greater. Unknown who shot them down. Could be Friendly Fire? ** launching Apaches to go after the rest of the SAMS and Katyushas. ** Some Mirage F1's (6) Shot down, must have been Iraq’s at one time. ** Lost Track, CAP of 4 F15's ambushed, 3 lost to Alamo's... ** Apaches made quick work of the Katyushas and SA7's...No more to be seen. ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** END FOR THE NIGHT ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** 3 Strike sets sent against (Yrb). HARMS and Have Naps did some damage. Lost some F-15's and F-16's, but have weeded out many Iranian front line aircraft. Took out targets of opportunity on way back. Note: Harms are easily shot down it seems, must saturate your targets. Note: Israel will have trouble with AA10 armed MiG29's and Phoenix armed F-14's. These cost me most of my losses. I went ahead and attacked to get their numbers down. The F14's are easy to spot, but the MiG29's seem to be hard to track and find with F15's. This does not seem right to me, I am flying low, ENCOM off and yet he sees me and when I pop up I can not see them, sometimes too late. Calculated losses here. Hopefully no more to deal with. Note: Not a single loss of any tankers, the decision to make all A4's Tankers was a GOOD one. Two airbases totally destroyed, (Yrb - 51% Damage), 14 SAMS destroyed, 27 Katyushas, 16 Iranian allied ships sunk. AC Ratio 239/30 - Not bad but the MiG29s and F-14s have longer missile range than any Israeli AC. Most of these are F5's and Chinese MiG21's and a few SU22's. Note: The Iranians need Tankers also to get to Israel. This is good as I have shot most down I think. ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** END FOR THE NIGHT ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** Launch F16I Strike, combine tankers, refueled. Oh no, looks like 6 F-14s heading my way. break off Intercept F-16I's, 2 sets of 2 and close. F-14's launched... Continue press on and protect your SEAD AC. Phoenix's closing, go Vlow and take your chances, all miss. Go to Low and fire 2X missiles at each F14. Done...now wait. 6 F14's shot down, 1 F16I lost... I can deal with those numbers! Got 4 MiG29's also. Press on with attack. SAMS are degraded with many HARMS, half the Delilah missiles hit, not much damage but the next time I can use iron bombs etc. Successful attack only one AC lost... AC Ratio 31/259. I caught some Su24's without escorts! Strike Launched, F15's w/Tankers....Well must keep the 15's in contact with the haveNaps...all missiles lost! Crap. My Bad. New strikes launched combination, first encounter 4 MiG29's against 5 F-15I's...* AMRAAM's...Lost 1 F15 all AMRAAMs missed..What? CHARGE! 6 AMRAAMs launched, 3 MiG29s shot down, lost another F15. What is the deal with these MiG29s? Do they have jamming support? Ballistic Missile attack! The Arrows are not that effective, AMRAAMs were but yet damage still occurred. ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** END FOR THE NIGHT ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** 24 hours since the start of hostilities. Air Superiority is 90%, now I believe I can use my Tankers to get more A/C deep and get the Ballistic Missile sites! Roughly one day has passed, the strikes have not been as effective as I had wished. The Delilah missiles have the range but apparently almost NO damage. Must get IRON bombs on target and soon. Another Ballistic Missile, this time a slow one, Patriot kill! Another Jihad Missiles, will have to read on these. Where are they coming from? F15 strike group jumped by 4 F14's, didn’t see them as radar was off. 3 F15's paid the price. 4 F14s gone though. EMCOM ON. I want them to see me! And so some F4's are out there, need to localize them. Got em and more F14's just popped up, Got 2, no losses...good.. The F15C/D does not have the range with a 1/1 tanker ratio, must try 2/1 Tanker to get within distance of a target. This is the 2nd attack with no results. Bad. Still the F16I's and F15I's are ok and trucking on. Launched Mavericks, like try to bomb a target with hand grenades, Nuke site on 62% damage. Lost 1 to SAM. Delilah missiles suck. Iron Bombs launched, 2/1 tanker ratio with F15C/D and F16C/D's...lets see.. Well 4 F15's were ambushed again by 4 F14s, a 4-4 trade...damn. These F16I's are GOOD planes, nice range etc. Just shot down 3 F14's and making a break for home. Have learned how to deal with these F14's and Phoenix's. Launched new strikes, will not let up. Last F14 got me, 2 F16I's shot down from behind, no fuel to run in AB. AC ratio 299/43...getting better. Damn Game Crash.................. Ok started back from where I left off.. Lost 2 F16I to SA-10's shot down 2 F14s again. I will kill this base and get rid of the F14s I hope. Again these Delilah missiles just fly right on by...they suck. AC Ratio 306/47.... New attacks launched. One MiG29 shot down. No more F14's??? More Strikes....F16I's w/Tankers.......TBM Destroyed. Ah now I have found the weapons for load out. Must get more tankers for the F16I's..F15I's just JDAM'd Nuke Site 2, Destroyed! Terror Camp # 2 Destroyed! Smaller packages with more tankers seems to be working. No fighters for a while except the Chinese MiG21's.......Another Terror camp destroyed! Looks like no fighter aircraft left except Mirage F-1's.....Last 2 targets are Deep inside Iran though. 4/1 Tanker Ratio I bet. Ah Met Minimum VICTORY CONDITIONS!!! Play on, I need to get the Nuclear Reactor. AC ratio 48/322 Now they are getting desperate, MiG19's. This could be an issue as I am out of Medium Range Missiles now...Ok here it comes...Got em, MiG19's....2 of them. Oh no, this is getting serious, I just lost 8 F15I's to nothing? I assume SAMS but I never saw them coming. Now I am getting near to the limit of the amount of AC I can loose..I must be very careful from here on out. One more F15I strike on the last terror camp and concentrate on the Nuclear reactor. AC Ratio 337/56... Just lost an F15C to a SAM.....not good. Terror Camp # 3 wiped out. Take Care of Egress.....Plan route clean....Another attack needed on reactor! A Set of Mirage F1's tried to save the Terror Camp, all they got was shot down, AC Ratio 344/57... Last Nuke Site Destroyed, I will now take out some SCUD sites, the political situation is getting uneasy, I must defang Iran before the US and the United Nations forces a Cease Fire. Complete Air Superiority is mine for the time being. AC Ratio 348/57... Last SCUD site is Destroyed. Now the Decision must be made to pursue more attacks. I will make that call with 2 days left in the scenario. I will start wiping out airbases. Wait forgot one Nuke Site...Now all three are destroyed. Will vector other AC to get the Intel Center. Got it, All I am seeing now is F4E's, and Mirage F1's... AC Ratio 368/57... One F15I shot down making a fast run in, ranged weapons are not in this aircrafts strong suite I guess. I can only loose 2 more and I lose. The politicians are going nuts, the Americans are delaying vote at the UN Security Council, so I have maybe a day left or so to make this lesson a very important one to Iran. AC Ratio 370/58... Going through the Persian Gulf, wiping out Oil Terminals etc, this will be a very costly mistake for Iran to not listen to the UN. Even though Israel will get condemned, Iran will be set back 10 years. Their oil monies will be limited. I am also aiming for the Refinery, there is only 17 hours until a declared cease fire according to the Americans, I must hurry. AC Ratio 381/58... Bases, terminals, whatever targets I can get.... AC Ratio 391/58... 2 hours left, 3 strike packages in the air, inbound, will they be able to strike before being called back? More Targets leveled but the last F15I's were in the air, heading south to the Oil terminals when the call came. The UN has brokered a cease fire, this will include the Hezbollah in Lebanon. In just under 4 days, Iran’s Nuclear program has been set back 10+ years, their air force decimated, their oil industry severely damaged. Hostilities have ended.....for now. -Final AC Ratio 391/58... -Ships 22 Hostile Ships sunk with no losses on Israel’s side -Red Bases Destroyed 40, w/ 4 damaged, Israel had one base damaged. -AD Mobile 49 Destroyed w 17 damaged -Armored 28 destroyed, w 3 damaged. The Iranian people having seen the Mullahs cost them dearly, have begun riots in the streets and the Army wants no part in quelling these riots. Soon maybe peace... Meanwhile the Israeli Air force has lost some good aircraft, and having done what the United States and the rest of teh Western World had not the guts to do, will be first to receive the JSF. Congress recently voted to reopen the F22 production line after the lessons the Israelis learned. Israel is lobbying heavily to purchase the F22. - Some surprised learned, the F14's are dangerous VERY dangerous. - the Israelis would have a very tough time attacking Iran’s Nuclear facilities. Their AC are all but range limited and if not for the A4 Tankers, I would not have been so successful. - The F15I and F16I are very good aircraft. I liked this scenario and it made me think on just how hard an attack on Iran would be. I did not get air superiority until after 24 hours and that is hard to deal with.

Those updated MiG21's are a pain, with JSF's though I am making waste......Good so far. This was a good scenario, it tells me just how valuable the F-35 could be. Some notes: -The lack of Tankers on the carriers is a real barrier. -The Sea Harrier is no more than a Bomb truck. -SAMS are hard to knock out -The Storm Shadow and Scalp are nice, but seem to be easy to shoot down. -The need for a LR Harm is evident. -These updated MiG21's are dangerous -What Happened to Tacit Rainbow? Great Scenario I enjoyed it.

These are Great!! Thanks

Check the Wiki, the numbers are up for part of them anyway...Look at the titles and the Print Runs are listed. Harpoon Paper Rules History Larry Bond says I can ask Clash of Arms for the Modern Numbers

Scratch that.... It was Dave Arneson that founded Adventure Games and published the first Harpoon with Larry Bond. I have since found out that he passed away in 2009, may he rest in peace.. Dave Arneson & Dave Arneson Wiki So now it is to Clash of Arms, ..........

I goofed..I had thought I was contacting Mr. Chadwick and ended up recontacting Mr. Miller. I am glad he didn't get too upset. He was very helpful and gracious and is a class act. So now I must find Mr. Chadwick....If I can find him and get the information, then I will contact Clash of Arms and maybe just maybe we can have the paper rules set, then maybe we can get Don to give some numbers of the 'older' computer versions. Matrix would be the last request and since they are still selling, they might not want to give that information but it is the older stuff I am after. Interesting thing is, I bet the 'original' computer harpoon was probably the most numerous of the bunch, maybe up to 1992 or there about. This is just a guess.

Well I have some of the information...thanks to Marc Miller. I will compile it and add to the Wiki, but before I do that I need to see If I can get Clash of Arms to do the same thing. One open question, as I have not been able to get a hold of Frank Chadwick. Marc seemed to think the Harpoon and Harpoon II numbers to be very close, and we know that Harpoon I was about 2000 copies. What about Resolution 502? I bet this had a much lower printing number. I have only seen 2 listed and I got mine do to a very nice person Harpoon Resolution 502(1982) Harpoon Resolution 502 is a scenario designed to be used with the original 1981 version of the Harpoon rules. It models the crisis in the Falklands in April of 1982. The battle starts on 0001 EDT 27 April, 1982. Resolution 502, 1982, Adventure Games Incorporated Ilustrated by Erin McKee Edited by David Arneson NOTE: The Harpoon Battlebook says that says that there was 2000 original copies of Harpoon (First Edition) printed in April 1981. The HBB also says that there are two books to this issue, one a 36-page rule book and a 64-page Annex. Both copies that I have have the rules and Annex in one single issue as described earlier. This last statement bothers me, I do not know where that information came from. The 2 book set was and is Harpoon II. I know have have 3 copies of both. Harpoon I was just ONE book. Weird but a mistake in the Harpoon Battlebook I guess.

Isn't that the truth, we have come a long way since the 80's have we not? Back then it was only Cuba and Nicaragua that we worried about...

Worked for me, thanks! I was wondering about that..