CV32

The database uses the H4 data (where available) that was available at the time.

aviator, here is a list of Soviet nuclear powered submarines that were commissioned by 1990 and which were serving with the Northern Fleet at the time: Project 627 (NATO November) SSN: K-3, K-5 (decommissioned in January 1990), K-11, K-21, K-50; decommissioned in April 1990: K-11, K-21, K-50 Pr 658 (Hotel) SSBN: K-16, K-19 (in reserve since 1979, decommissioned April 1990), K-33, K-40, K-145, K-149 (went into reserve fleet in March 1990) Pr 667A (Yankee) SSBN: K-32 (did not deploy after 1986 due to reactor accident), K-137 Leninets (on missile patrol in the North Atlantic from 19 October to 31 December 1990), K-140 (out of service by 17 December 1990), K-214, K-228, K-241, K-245, K-249, K-253 (Yankee Notch conversion), K-395 (in drydock for Yankee Notch conversion), K-403 (sea trials of towed array pod), K-411 (completed Yankee Stretch conversion in 1990), K-418 (removed from active service in 1989), K-420 (Yankee Sidecar SSGN conversion, but torpedoes only by 1989), K-423, K-426, K-444; decommissioned in April 1990: K-32, K-140, K-426 [Note: In 1988 the director of US naval intelligence Adm Studeman told Congress that Yankee class SSBNs had ceased patrols off the US coast in late 1987 and were instead conducting "combat service patrols against theater targets" (i.e. staying close to home), presumably to compensate for the loss of the SS-20 under the INF Treaty.] Pr 667B (Delta I) SSBN: K-279, K-385, K-447, K-450, K-457, K-460, K-465, K-472, K-475 Pr 667BD (Delta II) SSBN: K-92, K-182, K-193, K-421 Pr 667BDR (Delta III) SSBN: K-44 (in post drydock sea trials), K-129 (had powerplant failure in June 1989, may not have been available), K-424, K-449 (went to Pacific Fleet in November 1990), K-487, K-496 Pr 667BDRM (Delta IV) SSBN: K-18, -51, -64, -84, -114, -117, -407 (not commissioned until late November 1990) Pr 670M (Charlie II) SSGN: K-209, -452, -458, -479, -503, -508 Pr 671 (Victor I) SSN: K-38, -53, -69, -147, -306, -323, -367 (did not deploy again after a reactor accident in 1985), -370 (may not have been available for deployment), -398, -438, -462, -481 Pr 671RT (Victor II) SSN: K-371, -387, -467, -488 (never returned to sea after 1988 drydock), -495, -513, -517 Pr 671RTM (Victor III) SSN: K-218, -244, -254, -298, -299, -358, -502, -524, -527 Pr 671RTMK (Improved Victor III) SSN: K-292, K-388, K-138 (operational from January 1990), K-414 (not commissioned until 30 December 1990) Pr 675 (Echo II) SSGN: К-1 (may not have deployed after 1989), K-22, K-28, K-35 (final deployment in 1989), K-47 (in refuel and overhaul, did not return until 1992), K-74, K-104, K-125, K-128 (not in active service after 1989), K-131 (did not deploy after 1984), K-170 (may not have been operational after turbine accident in 1988), K-172 (stayed in port after reactor leak in June 1989); decommissioned in 1990: K-28, K-74, K-128, K-172 (in April) Pr 705 (Alfa) SSN: K-123 (received a new reactor in 1990, probably not operational until 1992), K-316, K-373, K-432, K-463, K-493 (all but K-123 decommissioned in April 1990) Pr 941 (Typhoon) SSBN: TK-12, TK-13, TK-17, TK-20, TK-202, TK-208 Pr 945 (Sierra I) SSN: K-239, K-276 Pr 945A (Sierra II) SSN: K-534 (not commissioned until 26 December 1990) Pr 949 (Oscar I) SSGN: K-206 Minsky Komsomolets, K-525 Pr 949A (Oscar II) SSGN: K-119, K-132 (transferred to Pacific Fleet in late October 1990), K-148, K-410 (not commissioned until 22 December 1990), K-442 (not commissioned until 28 December 1990) Pr 971 (Akula) SSN: K-154 (commissioned but reportedly not operational until December 1993), K-157 (commissioned but reportedly not operational until November 1995), K-317 Pantera (not commissioned until 27 December 1990), K-328 (commissioned but reportedly not operational until December 1992), K-461 (commissioned but reportedly not operational until December 1991), K-480 I will further update this list with information about which boats might have actually been available for service.

It isn't a truly realistic tactical or strategic simulation. And that's not talking smack about a sim I have loved and spent an inordinate amount of time with. It's just the truth.

I have yet to find a commercially available simulation that can come anywhere close to realistically modeling the real life outcome of any military clash of arms on the kind of scale approached by sims such as Harpoon. That includes Command. These sims are far too mechanical, too regimented, too structured to realistically simulate the swirling multi-factorial chaos that is war. But they rank among the best we have, for the moment.

aviator, what's the setting date for your scenario? This would of considerable help in trying to find the right size of your proposed submarine deployment. Even though the Soviets fielded a large number of submarines, the classes and members of those classes that would have been available at any given time would be considerably smaller. Many units of a given class, for example, would have been under construction, under refit or repair, not on deployment (for any number of reasons), or deployed outside the Northern Fleet at any given point in time. I would be happy to help you narrow the field (in terms of trying to achieve the best workable solution for both realism and game play) if you have an idea of the date of your scenario. Scenarios are the lifeblood of the game!

Sorry I could not make it this time around. Previous commitment. Next time!

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Glad to hear it. Let us know how it goes.

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Already posted here by TonyE but another reminder won't hurt. 🙂

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Don is here on the forum (Uncleharpoon) so I expect he would enjoy it.

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That's one of the characteristics of naval ships in general - they tend to abhor empty or unused space.

We get a fair bit of military traffic - aircraft and ships in particular - in this part of the world. I have been privy to a low pass overhead by several Ospreys in formation. It is certainly a memorable sound.

You came to the right place for the info. 😀

Yes, a 16 cell Mk 41 VLS was part of the original LPD-17 design. And Hughes let slip at a Navy League show circa 1996 that there was also room for more VLS cells forward of the bridge. IIRC, the original DB entry for the LPD-17 included the 16 cell VLS. One tends to collect this kind of information as a DB editor. 😉

No worries. And no apologies necessary. There are a undoubtedly a multitude of details that only a shipyard worker would know, and which impact the real life capabilities of a warship, but which never make it to a Harpoon database. Unfortunately, because I truly love the details! 🙂

Correct.

In this case, it has to be the photo, because that is how USS Mahan (DDG-72) - like other Flight II Arleigh Burkes - is configured. No hangars, just the pad. USS Farragut (DDG-99), meanwhile, is a Flight IIA Arleigh Burke, with the pad and the dual hangars.

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USS Mahan (DDG-72) certainly has a helicopter pad but perhaps have a closer look at the aft end of that destroyer. 😉 USS Farragut (DDG-99), btw, is a Flight IIA Burke. 🙂