Sounds great Don! I made very good progress on game changes yesterday and introduced a new field on the unit's AirRec called FuelToOffload. I aim to work it into the shared pascal code tonight and get a GE and SE build outby the end of the weekend.

FuelToOffload field added to THCAirRec in uHCTypeDefs and checked in to SVN. The catch is that the field is only available in game version 2015.008 and newer so you may want to delay grabbing this change until I get 2015.008 out.

 

FuelToOffload: LongInt; // ALE 20150611 HC2015.008+ fuel left in tanker in nm

 

Sounds great Don! I made very good progress on game changes yesterday and introduced a new field on the unit's AirRec called FuelToOffload. I aim to work it into the shared pascal code tonight and get a GE and SE build outby the end of the weekend.

FuelToOffload field added to THCAirRec in uHCTypeDefs and checked in to SVN. The catch is that the field is only available in game version 2015.008 and newer so you may want to delay grabbing this change until I get 2015.008 out.

 

FuelToOffload: LongInt; // ALE 20150611 HC2015.008+ fuel left in tanker in nm

 

You must have found some spare time

being able to tinker with the mechanism that has fuel available/ no fuel available would be good too

Have we got exportDLL access to switching the new effect #21 ?

With the amount of work you've done I'm thinking we can do the whole management externally. (back to the drawing board )

You must have found some spare time

being able to tinker with the mechanism that has fuel available/ no fuel available would be good too

Have we got exportDLL access to switching the new effect #21 ?

With the amount of work you've done I'm thinking we can do the whole management externally. (back to the drawing board )

Something like that (finding spare time).

 

Fuel available or not, this change really takes care of that albeit in an alternate way. If there is a value other than zero in FuelToOffload then there is fuel available. The second piece is looking to see if there is an existing refuel event. Since you have access to the full list of events you can loop through the list looking for a refuel event for the group with the tanker, if one exists then there is currently tanking going on and you should wait a while.

 

Yes, effect #21 is exposed to the ExportDLLs. I haven't written any example code other than in lazHCEffects http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.php?/files/file/835-exportdll-lazhceffects/which is just proving it can be over-ridden.

 

Hehe, yes, the whole of the management can be done externally, you'll still need some functions and/or data exposed but there is enough to get the brain churning.

These are great changes! They pretty much give us what we've always needed in refuelling.

I missed that lazeffects was on SVN, I'll grab that and once I relearn the new refuelling think about what, if anything, would be nice to add as an external management function.

If the spare time isn't expended, exposure to loadouts and speed against throttle in the airrec data would come in handy

I've just noticed that using lazeffects with effect 21 set to override and do nothing, using GE 2015.007, planes seem to not use any fuel. I expected that fuel usage would still be calculated and decremented with effect 21 turned off (but that refuelling wouldn't auto start), which should it be?

I've just noticed that using lazeffects with effect 21 set to override and do nothing, using GE 2015.007, planes seem to not use any fuel. I expected that fuel usage would still be calculated and decremented with effect 21 turned off (but that refuelling wouldn't auto start), which should it be?

It was an intentional change to centralize the fuel stuff in effect 21. Sorry I didn't get 2015.008 out this weekend. Scenario Start DateTime is kicking my butt, I hate timezones not to mention daylight savings time! Plus my 2-year old has forgotten how to fall asleep on his own so we keep him company instead of getting stuff done at night.

 

HCE - 2015.005 - 2015-05-28

==========================

- Chg:0000 GE Moved decrementing of aircraft fuel from Display.c MoveUnits to Staff.c CheckGroupFuel

so that it can be replaced in ExportDLLs via HCEffect21.

Guys,

I don't know what I am doing wrong with refueling. Yesterday I refueled a group of 25 fighters with a tanker. The group consisted of five, 5 plane groups and a group of 10 tankers. The tankers refueled the group and was loitering. I separated the tankers from the group and the GE just crashed. The GE Log. Below is what was in the GE log for the refueling event:

121031 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50437634 18027617 Before
121031 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50438112 18027456 After
121042 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by VJA
121044 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UPA
121046 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UNA
121048 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by ULA
121050 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by WLA
121052 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UIA
121054 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UGA
121056 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UEA
121058 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UBA
121061 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50438112 18027456 Before
121061 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50438589 18027295 After
121061 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TYA
121063 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TZA
121065 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TVA
121068 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TTA
121071 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by ZCA
121073 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TQA
121075 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TOA
121078 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TMA
121091 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50438589 18027295 Before
121091 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50445997 18028329 After
121121 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50445997 18028329 Before
121121 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50439543 18026972 After
121151 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50439543 18026972 Before
121151 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50440020 18026811 After
121181 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50440020 18026811 Before
121181 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50440498 18026650 After
121182 staff.c:215 - creating refueling event
Group=0x49050e0 (EWAS Endurance = 158686 num_tanker=10, platstart=10 platnow=10
121211 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50440498 18026650 Before
121211 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50440975 18026489 After
121212 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA
121212 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10
121212 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm
121212 combat5.c:1363 - in the not refueling path
121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW001 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[0]
121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW002 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[1]
121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW003 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[2]
121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW004 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[3]
121212 combat5.c:1506 - returning to wait 30 seconds for refueling to complete
121241 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50440975 18026489 Before
121241 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50441452 18026328 After
121242 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA
121242 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10
121242 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm
121242 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path
121242 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW001
121242 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 5171s, loadout originally had 80228s
121242 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 251nm, loadout originally had 3900nm
121242 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks
121242 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion
121271 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50441452 18026328 Before
121271 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50441929 18026166 After
121301 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50441929 18026166 Before
121301 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50441196 18029025 After
121331 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50441196 18029025 Before
121331 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50449814 18027042 After
121332 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA
121332 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10
121332 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm
121332 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path
121332 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW002
121332 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 4811s, loadout originally had 80228s
121332 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 233nm, loadout originally had 3900nm
121332 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks
121332 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion
121361 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50449814 18027042 Before
121361 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50443361 18025683 After
121391 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50443361 18025683 Before
121391 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50443838 18025522 After
121421 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50443838 18025522 Before
121421 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50451245 18026560 After
121422 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA
121422 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10
121422 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm
121422 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path
121422 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW003
121422 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 4451s, loadout originally had 80228s
121422 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 216nm, loadout originally had 3900nm
121422 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks
121422 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion
121451 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50451245 18026560 Before
121451 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50438878 18030487 After
121481 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50438878 18030487 Before
121481 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50445270 18025038 After
121505 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()
121509 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()
121511 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50445270 18025038 Before
121511 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50445747 18024877 After
121512 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA
121512 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10
121512 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm
121512 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path
121512 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW004
121512 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 4091s, loadout originally had 80228s
121512 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 198nm, loadout originally had 3900nm
121512 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks
121512 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion
121523 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()
121541 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50445747 18024877 Before
121541 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50446224 18024716 After
121553 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()
121571 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50446224 18024716 Before
121571 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50446701 18024555 After
121601 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50446701 18024555 Before
121601 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50447179 18024394 After
121602 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA
121602 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10
121602 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm
121602 combat5.c:1363 - in the not refueling path
121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW001 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[0]
121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW002 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[1]
121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW003 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[2]
121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW004 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[3]
121602 combat5.c:1506 - returning to wait 30 seconds for refueling to complete
121629 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()
121631 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50447179 18024394 Before
121631 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50454582 18025436 After
121632 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA
121632 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10
121632 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm
121632 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path
121632 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW001
121632 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=1561s of Cruise fuel, plane has 79064s, loadout originally had 80228s
121632 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=75nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 3843nm, loadout originally had 3900nm
121632 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks
121632 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion
121661 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50454582 18025436 Before
121661 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50448133 18024071 After
121691 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50448133 18024071 Before
121691 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50448610 18023910 After
121721 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50448610 18023910 Before
121721 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50456017 18024954 After
121722 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA


Game just stopped running at this point.

This seems to be very similar to my issue report from the other day. I got the same type of msg and the GE just gave me the stopped running box and then crashed.

Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

I just noticed 5 getannex errors in the GE log

Thanks,
Eric

Eric,

I'll guess that the problem is in the A2Ademo.dll. It isn't thorough in checking for situations that are 'unexpected'. I'm assuming you manually split off the tankers (which you should be able to do) and the dll was then trying to look at something that no longer existed.

Tony is working up a new GE that will handle all of this so these sorts of thing will disappear.

For the short term I'll have a look and see if I can come up with something, my best guess is to fiddle the refuelling event data so the tankers are ready to go home by normal means - which of the two A2ArefuelDemo versions did you use?

 

I've just noticed that using lazeffects with effect 21 set to override and do nothing, using GE 2015.007, planes seem to not use any fuel. I expected that fuel usage would still be calculated and decremented with effect 21 turned off (but that refuelling wouldn't auto start), which should it be?

It was an intentional change to centralize the fuel stuff in effect 21. Sorry I didn't get 2015.008 out this weekend. Scenario Start DateTime is kicking my butt, I hate timezones not to mention daylight savings time! Plus my 2-year old has forgotten how to fall asleep on his own so we keep him company instead of getting stuff done at night.

 

HCE - 2015.005 - 2015-05-28

==========================

- Chg:0000 GE Moved decrementing of aircraft fuel from Display.c MoveUnits to Staff.c CheckGroupFuel

so that it can be replaced in ExportDLLs via HCEffect21.

 

That'll teach me for not reading all the changes.

Guys,

 

I don't know what I am doing wrong with refueling. Yesterday I refueled a group of 25 fighters with a tanker. The group consisted of five, 5 plane groups and a group of 10 tankers. The tankers refueled the group and was loitering. I separated the tankers from the group and the GE just crashed. The GE Log. Below is what was in the GE log for the refueling event:

 

121031 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50437634 18027617 Before

121031 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50438112 18027456 After

121042 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by VJA

121044 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UPA

121046 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UNA

121048 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by ULA

121050 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by WLA

121052 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UIA

121054 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UGA

121056 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UEA

121058 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by UBA

121061 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50438112 18027456 Before

121061 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50438589 18027295 After

121061 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TYA

121063 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TZA

121065 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TVA

121068 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TTA

121071 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by ZCA

121073 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TQA

121075 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TOA

121078 effects.c:3085 - target group was not found, deleting interception by TMA

121091 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50438589 18027295 Before

121091 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50445997 18028329 After

121121 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50445997 18028329 Before

121121 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50439543 18026972 After

121151 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50439543 18026972 Before

121151 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50440020 18026811 After

121181 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50440020 18026811 Before

121181 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50440498 18026650 After

121182 staff.c:215 - creating refueling event

Group=0x49050e0 (EWAS Endurance = 158686 num_tanker=10, platstart=10 platnow=10

121211 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50440498 18026650 Before

121211 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50440975 18026489 After

121212 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

121212 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10

121212 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm

121212 combat5.c:1363 - in the not refueling path

121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW001 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[0]

121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW002 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[1]

121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW003 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[2]

121212 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW004 3643nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[3]

121212 combat5.c:1506 - returning to wait 30 seconds for refueling to complete

121241 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50440975 18026489 Before

121241 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50441452 18026328 After

121242 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

121242 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10

121242 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm

121242 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path

121242 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW001

121242 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 5171s, loadout originally had 80228s

121242 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 251nm, loadout originally had 3900nm

121242 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks

121242 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion

121271 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50441452 18026328 Before

121271 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50441929 18026166 After

121301 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50441929 18026166 Before

121301 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50441196 18029025 After

121331 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50441196 18029025 Before

121331 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50449814 18027042 After

121332 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

121332 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10

121332 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm

121332 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path

121332 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW002

121332 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 4811s, loadout originally had 80228s

121332 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 233nm, loadout originally had 3900nm

121332 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks

121332 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion

121361 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50449814 18027042 Before

121361 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50443361 18025683 After

121391 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50443361 18025683 Before

121391 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50443838 18025522 After

121421 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50443838 18025522 Before

121421 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50451245 18026560 After

121422 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

121422 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10

121422 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm

121422 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path

121422 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW003

121422 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 4451s, loadout originally had 80228s

121422 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 216nm, loadout originally had 3900nm

121422 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks

121422 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion

121451 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50451245 18026560 Before

121451 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50438878 18030487 After

121481 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50438878 18030487 Before

121481 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50445270 18025038 After

121505 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()

121509 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()

121511 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50445270 18025038 Before

121511 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50445747 18024877 After

121512 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

121512 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10

121512 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm

121512 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path

121512 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW004

121512 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=75453s of Cruise fuel, plane has 4091s, loadout originally had 80228s

121512 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=3667nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 198nm, loadout originally had 3900nm

121512 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks

121512 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion

121523 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()

121541 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50445747 18024877 Before

121541 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50446224 18024716 After

121553 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()

121571 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50446224 18024716 Before

121571 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50446701 18024555 After

121601 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50446701 18024555 Before

121601 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50447179 18024394 After

121602 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

121602 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10

121602 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm

121602 combat5.c:1363 - in the not refueling path

121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW001 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[0]

121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW002 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[1]

121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW003 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[2]

121602 combat5.c:1418 - Will try to give each plane in unit=EW004 51nm of fuel when event is processed planestofuel_ids[3]

121602 combat5.c:1506 - returning to wait 30 seconds for refueling to complete

121629 combat3.c:919 - just avoided a getannex error()

121631 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50447179 18024394 Before

121631 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50454582 18025436 After

121632 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

121632 combat5.c:1231 - tanker unit=EW005, numtankers=10

121632 combat5.c:1239 - Tanker fuel=89000nm

121632 combat5.c:1243 - in the now refueling path

121632 combat5.c:1279 - about to start refueling unit_id=EW001

121632 combat5.c:1302 - first calculation fuel to add=1561s of Cruise fuel, plane has 79064s, loadout originally had 80228s

121632 combat5.c:1303 - first calculation fuel to add=75nm of Cruise fuel, plane has 3843nm, loadout originally had 3900nm

121632 combat5.c:1314 - 8022 seconds (389 nm) of Cruise fuel added to DropTanks

121632 combat5.c:1358 - returning to wait 90s for refuel completion

121661 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50454582 18025436 Before

121661 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50448133 18024071 After

121691 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50448133 18024071 Before

121691 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50448610 18023910 After

121721 search.c:2345 - ZQC Position 50448610 18023910 Before

121721 search.c:2351 - ZQC Position 50456017 18024954 After

121722 combat5.c:1220 - Processing Refuel Event for Group=EWA

 

 

Game just stopped running at this point.

 

This seems to be very similar to my issue report from the other day. I got the same type of msg and the GE just gave me the stopped running box and then crashed.

 

Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

 

I just noticed 5 getannex errors in the GE log

 

Thanks,

Eric

 

 

Eric,

I'll guess that the problem is in the A2Ademo.dll. It isn't thorough in checking for situations that are 'unexpected'. I'm assuming you manually split off the tankers (which you should be able to do) and the dll was then trying to look at something that no longer existed.

Tony is working up a new GE that will handle all of this so these sorts of thing will disappear.

For the short term I'll have a look and see if I can come up with something, my best guess is to fiddle the refuelling event data so the tankers are ready to go home by normal means - which of the two A2ArefuelDemo versions did you use?

Hi Eric,

I think I can see the problem but as this is more a tool for looking at refuelling, and will be obsolete soon, I won't fix it. I have uploaded a latter version which still has this problem but is easier to use.

The problem is that the tanker is removed while there is a refuelling event pending in memory but I don't take out the event so when it comes around the GE is trying to make references to a unit that no longer exists (This is my best guess). Normally this is handled fine by the GE but we have gone beyond where it works by continuing the refuels.

Solution: instead of doing a manual split use the refuel dll, click "pause to investigate" (left mid of module window), click on the group refuel event in left panel, in the spin boxes to the mid right: reduce the available fuel to less than 200, adjust the 'unit' for queue position 0 to '255' ensure 'refuelling' is 1, click 'set'. optionally adjust the event time to current time + 1 and hit return key, then hit 'resume' This should do a GE controlled split of the tankers.

hint re the spin box, once you hit one of the adjuster arrows you can enter the new number by key entry. For the event time, after adjustment hit the enter key, for the other adjustments hit the "set" button to write them to memory.

Thanks Don. I will rerun the scenario and try your suggestion out and will let you know what happened. I have just downloaded the newest version and will install it shortly.

 

The group I refueled was larger at one point. I sent several units back to it's carrier after they ran out of ammo. I usually start out between 8 and 10 five plane units.

 

Thanks for the feedback so quickly. I will retry the scenario probably tomorrow evening again.

 

Thanks,

Eric

Don,

 

The new update takes up my whole monitor and I can't make it small enough to use.

Don,

 

The new update takes up my whole monitor and I can't make it small enough to use.

I don't know what's going on there Eric, I'll have a look and see what I've done wrong.

Looks like I have finally figured out ho to separate my Tankers form my other AC in the group with out crashing the game..

I did figure out how to make refuel dll usable too

This is how I see the refueling working when the tankers are embedded with the air group from base.

1. Refueling starts when an air group reaches a certain fuel level.
2. Fuel is transferred until the tanker runs out of refueling fuel.
3. When tanker runs out of fuel the Refueling On/Off goes to “0” Off.
4. The Refueling planes (in the example below the ASW group) have to be split from the tankers to form a new group to continue patrolling after the Game Time is more than the Event Time.

My observations:

1. If air group is split from the tankers before the Game Time is more that the event time the GE crashes.
2. If tankers are removed from the group after the Game Time is more than the event time the GE Crashes.
3. If air group is split from the tankers and the Game Time is greater than the Event Time everything is fine. No GE crash
4. Embedded tankers do not automatically separate after the available fuel for refueling is 0.
5. If you have a tanker meet up with an air group, they refuel the group until available refueling, fuel is 0 the tankers automatically disengage and RTB.

Is this how the refueling is supposed to work?

In the new GE release is refueling going to work any differently?

Is the lazarus GUI Export DLL box going to change and only have the refueling menu in it or are there plans to make greater use of the menus in the dll?

Refueling.zip