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Requests for the HCDB (Official DB of HCE) and HCDB2

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Ship entry 3093 SAM Aegis Ashore Bty (2015+) should have speed=0, not 5 knots, is a very encumbrant fixed instalation:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Ballistic_Missile_Defense_System#Aegis_Ashore

 

Photo of Deveselu, Romania, without Aegis Ashore here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deveselu

 

Photo of Deveselu with the Aegis Ashore partially installed here (three launchers/TEL, with 8 missiles in each, with perhaps some 3x24 in the magazine. I saw a image of the installation in development in Google Maps, but now is not available):

http://romania.usembassy.gov/policy/missile_defense_agreement.html

 

Also, the radar is apparently SPY-1D, not TPY-2 FBX-T.

The missiles installed in 2015 in the Romanian base, Deveselu, are Standard SM-3 RIM-161C Block Ib.

The missiles to be installed in 2018 in the Polish base, Redzikowo, are Standard SM-3 RIM-161D Block IIa.

Standard SM-3 RIM-161D Block IIb development probably discontinued at December 2015.

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  • Enrique, if you would be so kind, can you post a list of the carriers where you think capacity needs to be adjusted, and some authority for the requested change. (And, as you know, HCCW has its own th

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Ships missing names:

 

#2053 Canada Mackenzie (80/1) DDE 264 should be Qu'Appelle

#2053 Canada Mackenzie (80/1) DDE 263 should be Yukon

#2054 Canada Restigouche (DELEX1) DDE 259 should be Terra Nova

#2889 Canada Mackenzie (DELEX/1) DDE 264 should be Qu'Appelle

#2889 Canada Mackenzie (DELEX/1) DDE 263 should be Yukon

 

What is the criteria for having a platform added? I would like to see the Halifax Class Flight II FFG added, just want to know what is required.

 

Thanks

Type 23 Duke-class frigate

and Type 23 CUP Duke-class frigate.

Apparently all were updated to a similar CUP configuration, the last in 2012, but the five older ,HMS Montrose, Monmouth, Iron Duke, Lancaster and Argyll are not scheduled to receive Sonar 2087 to replace Sonar 2031, and can form a separate entry.

 

In consequence:

 

#2206 Type 23 Duke (1989-2013):

Norfolk: decommissioned 2005, to Chile.

Grafton: decommissioned 2006, to Chile.

Marlborough: decommissioned 2006, to Chile.

Northumberland: CUP conversion 7/2004-7/2005.

Richmond: CUP conversion 6?/2005-10/2006.

Iron Duke: CUP conversion 2007-3/2008, no Sonar 2087.

Somerset: CUP conversion 2007?-2009?.

Monmouth: CUP conversion 2008?-2009?, no Sonar 2087.

Sutherland: CUP conversion 2008?-2009?.

Montrose: CUP conversion 11/2008-2/2010, no Sonar 2087.

Westminster: CUP conversion 2009?-2011?.

Argyll: CUP conversion 10/2010-3/2011, no Sonar 2087.

Lancaster: CUP conversion 9/2010-3?/2013, no Sonar 2087.

Portland: CUP conversion 1?/2012-4/2013.

Kent: CUP conversion 12/2010-6/2013.

St. Albans: CUP conversion 5/2013-5/2014.

 

#2972 Type 23 CUP (2005+):

Northumberland: CUP conversion 7/2005+.

Richmond: CUP conversion 10/2006+.

Somerset: CUP conversion 2009?+.

Sutherland: CUP conversion 2009?+.

Westminster: CUP conversion 2011?+.

Portland: CUP conversion 4/2013+.

Kent: CUP conversion 6/2013+.

St. Albans: CUP conversion 5/2014+.

 

Possible new ship entry, Type 23 CUP without Sonar 2087 (2008+):

Iron Duke: CUP conversion 3/2008+.

Monmouth: CUP conversion 2009?+.

Montrose: CUP conversion 2/2010+.

Argyll: CUP conversion 3/2011+.

Lancaster: CUP conversion 3?/2013+.

 

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_23_frigate#Sonar_2087

The conversion dates come from individual ship stories in Wikipedia and other sources, and can be controversial and incomplete.

Jane's 2009-2010.

 

Also, Radar 997 Artisan 3D is replacing Radar 996 (AWS-9) from 2013 in both sub-classes, first ship was Iron Duke:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_23_frigate#Artisan_3D_radar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_997_Artisan_3D

 

Also #2206 Type 23 Duke (1989-2013) is classified as FF sub type and #2972 Type 23 CUP (2005+) is classified as FFG sub type, but both have the same basic weapons (Sea Wolf and Harpoon), and I think the difference FF/FFG can cause some errours in the victory conditions in some cases.

NATO AGS Global Hawk (IOC 2017):

 

Five UAVs to be based in Sigonella, Sicily.

Based in RQ-4B Block 40.

Equipped with "Northrop-Raytheon “MP-RTIP” sensor for ground-looking synthetic aperture radar imaging and ground-moving target indication (GMTI), the unmanned air vehicle offers similar capabilities to the Northrop E-8C “JSTARS"

we can assume a radar similar to APY-7.

 

This UAV can be allocated in the #10930 RQ-4E Euro Hawk, cancelled in 2013.

 

 

Sources:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/natos-new-ags-global-hawk-achieves-first-flight-420228/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Ground_Surveillance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-76#AN.2FAPY-3

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Jumped-up-JSTARS-MP-RTIP-Technology-for-Ground-Surveillance-Planes-05156/

What is the criteria for having a platform added? I would like to see the Halifax Class Flight II FFG added, just want to know what is required.

 

Thanks

 

See What is the HCDB? in the FAQ section.

 

The Halifax 'flight II' appears as Halifax FELEX in the HCDB.

Thank you, that was what I was looking for.

 

In regards to the Halifax batch/flight II I was referring to the original plans to build them 9.4 metres longer so at their mid life refit they could be fitted a Mk41 VLS with RIM-161, APAR and SMART-L. I found reference to this plan at hazegray.org, global security.org and Wikipedia as well.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Class_Surface_Combatant_Project

http://www.hazegrat.org/navhist/canada/current/futurddg/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/canada/hmcs-csc.htm

Thank you, that was what I was looking for. In regards to the Halifax batch/flight II I was referring to the original plans to build them 9.4 metres longer so at their mid life refit they could be fitted a Mk41 VLS with RIM-161, APAR and SMART-L. I found reference to this plan at hazegray.org, global security.org and Wikipedia as well.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Class_Surface_Combatant_Project

http://www.hazegrat.org/navhist/canada/current/futurddg/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/canada/hmcs-csc.htm

 

Oh, I see. This is unlikely to find its way into the DB as it falls into the hypothetical category.

 

Thank you, that was what I was looking for. In regards to the Halifax batch/flight II I was referring to the original plans to build them 9.4 metres longer so at their mid life refit they could be fitted a Mk41 VLS with RIM-161, APAR and SMART-L. I found reference to this plan at hazegray.org, global security.org and Wikipedia as well.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Class_Surface_Combatant_Project

http://www.hazegrat.org/navhist/canada/current/futurddg/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/canada/hmcs-csc.htm

Oh, I see. This is unlikely to find its way into the DB as it falls into the hypothetical category.

 

cdnice, you make want to bring it to the HCEEFDB database thread. Eric specializes in hypothetical through fictional :).

Thank you, I will check that out.

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More data on Su-34 Fullback in the Air International March 2016 issue:

- Sea level speed, clean: 1300 Km/h=702 knots (previous statements 1400 Km/h=756 knots).

- High altitude speed, clean: 1.6 Mach=918 knots (previous statemenents 1.8+ Mach).

- Ferry range 2160 nm.

- Max ceiling 15.700 meters.

- Range with 6x500 Kg bombs, 4xAAM and auxiliary tanks at sea level=945 nm.

- Range with 6x500 Kg bombs, 4xAAM and auxiliary tanks at high level=1620 nm.

- Radar designation V004, X-Band, LDSD, SS, PESA. Capable of track-while-scan on 10 air targets, and to engage 4 air targets and 4 surface targets simultaneously.

- Radar range against fighter size target 64 nm. (coherent with the previous 97,2 nm stated as maximum AA range, also, 73 nm SS range against a "large" ship, probably also 97,2 nm maximum range in SS).

- Radar V004 is included in the Leninets Sh141 suite, comprising also KNIRTI L265V Khibiny-MV ECM/ESM (L175V Khibiny-10V in early production aircrafts) usually installed in wingtips, 623D IFF device, all controled by K-030B (Baget-10V) computer.

- L150 Pastel RWR.

- Ventral I255 B1/02 Platan TV-laser targeting system (looking through a retractable "slot", probably not a search device, delete IRST, TDS and FLIR flags).

- RPKB K-102 targeting and navigation system.

- 7x14 chaff/flare dispensers below the tail "sting".

- Weapons: Kh-59M, Kh-31P, Kh-31A, Kh-29T/L, R-27 and R-73 (probably also R-77/AA-12 Adder, Kh-35U, Kh-38M and Kh-31PM. UPAB-1500 in evaluation).

- Can carry up to four underwing L175VU-1, L175VU-2 and L175VSh-1 ECM pods (delivered to operational units from 2015).

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Considerations on Xian H-6 Badger (Tupolev Tu-16 derivative) variants, mostly a request to add the current H-6K very improved variant.

 

H-6K (2011+): very improved with new streamlined "solid" nose including search radar (probably the same Type 245 #43384 of previous variants), better Russian engines (D-30KP-2/Chinese version WS-18) and longer range. Employed only by the Chinese Air Force (PLAAF). Probably 24 airplanes in each Regiment. Some 75 in service in three Regiments and test units in March 2016, is now the more numerous H-6 variant in PLAAF.

In service from 2011.

- At least 3780 nm range. Perhaps 2170 nm range with 6xMissiles.

- Higher cruise speed (450 knots?).

- Six wing pylons for up to six KD-20/DF-10K/Dong Hai 10 cruise missiles (#18844), or up to only four KD-63 (#18933).

- Bomb bay restaured (we can use the #56477 loadout). It was not present on previous H-6G/H/M.

- No defensive guns, more defensive electronics on tail.

- Adds FLIR and laser target designator (RWR, probably all H-6 variants have RWR and not ESM, inflight refuelling).

 

H-6G (2004+). Chinese Navy variant, very similat to H-6M (2007+, #10978). Probably Type 245 radar. Replaces H-6D from 2004? (H-6D is not in service). Only in service in PLAN. Some 40 new built from 1999, and a few converted from H-8F. 18 airplanes in each of two Regiments (36 in service in March 2016).

- Four wing pylons for up to four YJ-83K (#18860), or up to four YJ-12 (2015?+, also employed in JH-7B) supersonic anti-ship missiles .

- No bomb bay.

- Some (very few? four?) converted from H-6F retain 23mm defensive guns.

- RWR, inflight refuelling.

 

 

Sources:

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com.es/p/attack-aircraft.html

http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/china/airforce

http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/china/navy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12

Chinese Air Force inventory:

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E4%BA%BA%E6%B0%91%E8%A7%A3%E6%94%BE%E5%86%9B%E7%A9%BA%E5%86%9B

Chinese Naval Air Force inventory:

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E4%BA%BA%E6%B0%91%E8%A7%A3%E6%94%BE%E5%86%9B%E6%B5%B7%E5%86%9B%E8%88%AA%E7%A9%BA%E5%85%B5

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