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Requests for the HCDB (Official DB of HCE) and HCDB2

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Considerations on Type 056/A Jiangdao corvette:

Cheap, useful and numerous. Some 31 to be in service.

Maximum speed very probably 28 knots (speed stated in the Chinese Wikipedia Type 056A entry, and in the Russian Wikipedia Type 056 entry).

 

Two subvariants, Type 056 (2013+) and Type 056A (2015+).

Almost identical, main difference Type 056A adds towed array/VDS sonar, perhaps TLAS-1.

 

Type 056 (2013+) shipnames, entry #3964:

Xinyang 501

Suzhou 503

Huaian 509

Ningde 510

Baoding 511

Heze 512

Datong 580

Yingkou 581

Bengbu 582

Sangrao 583

Meizhou 584

Baise 585

Gian 586

Jieyang 587

Quanzhou 588

Qingyuan 589

Weihai 590

Fushun 591

Luzhou 592

Chaozou 595

Huizhou 596

Qinzhou 597

 

Type 056A (2015+) shipnames, new proposed entry:

Ezhou ???

Huangshi 502

Suquian 504

Qinhuangdao 505

Jingmen 506

Tongren 507

??? 508

Sanmenxia 593

Zhuzhou 594

 

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette

 

Type 56 shiplist and fleet/squadron deployment (the ship names are translatable with any on line translator from Traditional Chinese):

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/056%E5%9E%8B%E5%AF%BC%E5%BC%B9%E6%8A%A4%E5%8D%AB%E8%88%B0

Type 56A shiplist:

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/056A%E5%9E%8B%E5%AF%BC%E5%BC%B9%E6%8A%A4%E5%8D%AB%E8%88%B0

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  • Enrique, if you would be so kind, can you post a list of the carriers where you think capacity needs to be adjusted, and some authority for the requested change. (And, as you know, HCCW has its own th

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Some clarifications on "High New" series of Chinese electronic warfare airplanes, based in the four turboprop Shaanxi Y-8/Y-9 (An-12 derivatives):

 

Y-8CB GX1/High New 1 (In service 2004?+):

Current entry #10732 (now named Y-8(DZ)).

ELINT/SIGINT/ESM/Ferret type, equipment in two tandem ventral canoe fairings. Probably BM/KZ800 ELINT system.

Three built and in service in the Chinese Air Force (PLAAF). Based in Jianxing and Shenyang/Yu Hung Tun.

 

Y-8JB GX2/High New 2 (In service 2004?+):

Navy equivalent type to Y-8CB, we can use also entry #10732 for his representation.

ELINT/SIGINT/ESM/Ferret type, equipment in chin and tail fairings. Probably BM/KZ800 ELINT system.

Four built and in service in the Chinese Navy (PLAN). Based in Dalian/Tuchengzi.

Y-8T GX3/High New 3 (In service 2004?+):

Not represented in HCDB.

Others times called GX4/High New 4, not clear what is the correct designation.

Airborne command post.

Four built and in service in the PLAAF. Based in Wuxi/Shuofang.

 

Y-8G GX4/High New 4 (In service 2005?+):

Current entry #10972 (now named Y-8EW).

Others times called GX3/High New 3, not clear what is the correct designation.

Electronic Warfare/Jammer type, equipment in two large cheek fairings, a tail fairing and an underfuselage cylinder. Perhaps downgraded BM/KZ800 ELINT system.

At least eight built and in service in the Chinese Air Force (PLAAF). Based in Jianxing (3?), Guiyang/Leizhuang (5?) and Shenyang/Yu Hung Tun (?).

 

KJ-200/Y-8W GX5/High New 5 (In service 2004?+):

Current entry #10929 (now named KJ-200 (Y-8AEW)).

AEW type, Balance Beam AESA radar inside a large rectangular fairing above the fuselage.

At least five built and in service in PLAAF, based at Wuxi/Shuofang, and at least six built and in service in PLAN, based at Laiyang.

 

Y-8Q GX6/High New 6 (In service 2015+):

Current entry #11674 (now named Y-8Q).

ASW/Maritime Patrol type.

At least four built and in service in the Chinese Navy (PLAN) in early 2016. Based in Layang.

 

Y-8XZ GX7/High New 7 (In service 2007+):

Not represented in HCDB.

PSYOPS airplane, broadcasting TV and radio and jamming communications. Equivalent to US EC-130E Commando Solo.

At least two built and in service in the PLAAF. Based in Guiyang/Leizhuang.

 

Y-9JB GX8/High New 8 (In service 2013+):

Navy equivalent type to Y-8CB, but newer and based in the Y-9, also adding FLIR, we can use also entry #10732 for his representation.

ELINT/SIGINT/ESM/Ferret type, equipment in multiple fairings.

Four built and in service in the Chinese Navy (PLAN). Based in Dalian/Tuchengzi.

 

Y-9XZ GX9/High New 9 (In service 2014+):

Not represented in HCDB.

PSYOPS airplane, broadcasting TV and radio and jamming communications. Perhaps adds capability to jamm Internet and social networks. Equivalent to US EC-130E Commando Solo. Similar to Y-8XZ, but based in the newer Y-9 platform.

At least one built and in service in the PLAAF. Based in Guiyang/Leizhuang.

 

KJ-500 GX10/High New 10 (In service 2014+):

Current entry #11680 (now named KJ-500).

AEW type, High New 10 AESA radar inside a large fixed rotodome with three integrated antennas, above the fuselage. Lightened radar system based on KJ-2000 and with almost the same capabilities.

At least two KJ-200 built and in service in PLAAF, based at Wuxi/Shuofang from 2015, and at least two KJ-200H built and in service in PLAN from 2014, based at Lingshui.

 

Y-9G GX11/High New 11 (In development in 2016):

Not represented in HCDB, but very similar to entry #10972 Y-8G GX4 airborne jammer.

Electronic Warfare/Jammer type, equipment in multiple fairings and antennas.

Probably to replace Y-8G GX4, but based in the newer Y-9 platform.

Sources:

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com.es/p/surveillance-aircraft-i.html

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com.es/p/surveillance-aircraft-ii.html

http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/china/airforce

http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/china/navy

1) I'll bet that you are already on this, but how about the SM-6 ASuW weapon, maybe 12 per DDG or CG, DP around 12-16, range 125 NM?

http://news.usni.org/2016/02/04/secdef-carter-confirms-navy-developing-supersonic-anti-ship-missile-for-cruisers-destroyers

 

2) Also, RGM 158C LRASM-A (VLS) range 380NM, AGM 158C (B1B, (12) F/A 18 (2)), range 450 NM, DP 76+

http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.displayPlatform&key=A947D40B-2498-4064-8EB9-6AFB47369DDB

 

3) Should the Chinese PL-10 have a range of 32 NM or so? Current 15 NM range makes PLAAF Flankers easy pickings...

 

THANKS

1) I'll bet that you are already on this, but how about the SM-6 ASuW weapon, maybe 12 per DDG or CG, DP around 12-16, range 125 NM?

Yes, you can expect the ASuW capable SM-6 mod.

 

2) Also, RGM 158C LRASM-A (VLS) range 380NM, AGM 158C (B1B, (12) F/A 18 (2)), range 450 NM, DP 76+

This is a little further out in time, but I will look.

 

3) Should the Chinese PL-10 have a range of 32 NM or so? Current 15 NM range makes PLAAF Flankers easy pickings...

15 nm is correct.

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Ships missing names:

#2053 Canada Mackenzie (80/1) DDE 264 should be Qu'Appelle

#2053 Canada Mackenzie (80/1) DDE 263 should be Yukon

#2054 Canada Restigouche (DELEX1) DDE 259 should be Terra Nova

#2889 Canada Mackenzie (DELEX/1) DDE 264 should be Qu'Appelle

#2889 Canada Mackenzie (DELEX/1) DDE 263 should be Yukon

 

When you see pennant numbers instead of names in the HCDB, it is typically because either (1) the ship has not yet been named, or (2) the name is duplicated in another entry, and more properly belongs in that other entry (the pennant number being retained to prevent crashes where it has been used in a scenario). In this case, it is #2.

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More as complement of the http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.php?/topic/23387-requests-for-the-hcdb-official-database-of-hce/?p=50686post than as request, relative to High New Y-8/Y-9 series of transports and specialized aircrafts, the recently presented AG600 is a close derivative of Y-9, with the same wingspan (40 m.) and same engines (4xWJ-6, derivative of the old Soviet AI-20). 60 planes to be delivered the next 15 years. Cruise speed estimated in 500 Km/h and range in 4500 Km in some videos:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaanxi_Y-9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVIC_TA-600

 

Roll-out video:

 

General characteristics video:

 

Old speculative profile of AG600:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1252

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EADS CASA C295MPA/MSA/VIMAR Persuader (request motivated by an Air International article of August 2016, detailing sensors and performances about the Portuguese planes):

- RWR (unespecified type).

- MHAWS (unespecified type).

- Chaff/Flare (unespecified type).

- Radar ELTA EL/M-2022M (underfuselage): 200 nm range. AS/SS (Syntetic Aperture capable).

- Radar Terma SLAR 9000 (fuselage sides): 25 nm range. SS. Not ever present or not in all planes, perhaps introduced from 2013. http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1026611

- Wescam MX-15 EO/IR (undernose).

- Northrop Grumman AN/APN-241 weather radar (nose).

- Maximum speed: 311 knots.

- Cruise speed: 260 knots.

- Payload: 4000 Kg.

- Range with 3000 Kg. payload: 2500 nm.

- Ferry range: 2900 nm.

- Ceiling: 30000 ft/9100 m.

- Takeoff run: 670 m.

- Landing run: 320 m.

- 7650 liters internal fuel.

 

- Portugal: Five C-295MPA Persuader aircrafts operated by Portugal. Esquadron 502 "Elefantes" at Montijo (two deployed in Lajes, Azores. Sometimes deployments to Bamako (Mali), Malaga (Spain), Sicily or Greece). Seven others are C-295M transports. Transports delivered first from 10 October 2008, each one with a month and a half interval, C-295MPA delivered later, probably from September 2009.

- Chile: Three operated by Chile, with unespecified ASW equipment in two of them (C295MPA/ASW), equipped also with MAD and ASW weapons, probably in six underwing stations. First one delivered in April 2010.

- Oman: 4xC-295M transports and 4xC-295MPA Persuader, all delivered 2013-March 2016.

 

- Some other 21 countries employ the basic C-295M transport (including Spain (13+8) from December 2000, almost all in-flight refuelling capable), detailed here:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA_C-295#Operadores

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Aviones_C-295

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Detected an error in an important Chinese ship, entry 3991 Kumming Type 052D (Chinese Aegis) class:

- Both forward and aft VLS mounts (61036 and 61065 mount entries) are equipped with medium-range HQ-16B SAM (entry 18785), and not with the correct long-range HQ-9 (FD-2000) SAM (entry 18823). The precedent class Luyang II Type 052C (first Chinese Aegis type) is correctly equipped with HQ-9 missiles.

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Good news for those following the DB. I got back to a little editing this past weekend, and I think you can reasonably expect an update in November.

Another simple implement (regrettably without clear sources, I did lost all the links):

- Is planned to substitute one of the H-60 in the main US Navy combatants (Zumwalt, Bunker Hill, Burke, LCS, perhaps any others) with three VTOL/rotary-wing UAVs.

- Simply increase the aircraft capacity of these ships to four (4), or perhaps even to six (6).

 

I will look for some links.

 

Here (end of the page), reference to Zumwalt-class:

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=900&ct=4

 

 

Aircraft: (2)MH60R or (1) MH60R and (3) VTUAVs
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Perhaps the Sea-Based X-Band radar, at least as very big target:

In service at least from 2006.

Spee=8 Knots

SBX radar range: some 2538 nm. AESA, HF/AS (Probability of Detection/PS=80%). Derived from THAAD's TPY-2 FBX-T/GBR, but with some 22.000 double elements=44.000 (TPY-2 has 25.344 elements and some 1566 nm range, with an instrumented range of 540 nm). Quote in Wikipedia:

 

 

The radar has been described by Lt. Gen Trey Obering (director of MDA) as being able to track an object the size of a baseball over San Francisco in California from Chesapeake Bay in Virginia, approximately 2,900 miles (4,700 km) away.

Displacement=45.000 Tm.

At least a navigation radar.

  • Vessel length: 116 meters.
  • Vessel height: 75 meters.

 

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea-based_X-band_Radar

http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/02.surv/karte015.en.html

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