TonyE Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 I gave a presentation similar to this to a coworker earlier this week and recorded another go at it last night for 'fun'. I suggest switching to the higher quality 720p so that you can actually see the screen text. This dips very lightly into Assembly programming and looking at high level language conversion into the opcodes and assembly instructions that the x86 processor understands. Part 1 Part 2 Warning: May put you to sleep! Quote
broncepulido Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 I understand clearly your voice (I think it's similar to my own voice ), I understand clearly every word, but I think the whole thing is very far of my mental capabitilies ... Quote
donaldseadog Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Thanks for putting this up, I'll have to connect some speakers but will be back. Don Things have changed in 35 years, I didn't catch whether windows visual studio was looking at the source code file and the compiled program or if you were actually writing the C code in windows visual studio and it sent it off to the compiler? Quote
donaldseadog Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 Are the 'free' cut downs of visual studio worth downloading for a play? I think I can get some intro texts for these common languages (at least basic, and I might still have a basic for dos text some where). I seem to remember C is a bit like pascal which I used at Uni so I assume C++ & C# wouldn't be totally foreign. Do you need a separate compiler compatible with VS? Don Quote
noxious Posted November 27, 2011 Report Posted November 27, 2011 Are the 'free' cut downs of visual studio worth downloading for a play? I think I can get some intro texts for these common languages (at least basic, and I might still have a basic for dos text some where). I seem to remember C is a bit like pascal which I used at Uni so I assume C++ & C# wouldn't be totally foreign. Do you need a separate compiler compatible with VS? Don Definitely a yes on the first question. MS did a very good job on the free versions, with the caveat that they can't be used for commercial work (iirc) and thus some good third party tools don't work with the Express editions. If you get the whole shebang, you have all the compilers supported, if you get the C/C++ package, you only have the C/C++ compiler, ditto with the C# package. You can choose what to install or not at setup time. C is not much like Pascal, but that said, shouldn't be that foreign. In the C family of language (C/C++/Objective C to name those), you can work quite close to the metal, and do manual management of memory, while Pascal was intended as a learning language if I remember correctly (it's been a very long time since I used the latter). C# is not really part of that family of language, beyond some syntactic resemblances, as it runs in a virtual machine, like Java and other modern high level languages. Plethora of online texts and intros on all those languages, as well as plenty of example code in the form of tutorials not too mention the plethora of open source programs out there that can serve as learning examples (of both what to do and not what to do while coding, but i digress ) Hope that helps ! Quote
donaldseadog Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Are the 'free' cut downs of visual studio worth downloading for a play? I think I can get some intro texts for these common languages (at least basic, and I might still have a basic for dos text some where). I seem to remember C is a bit like pascal which I used at Uni so I assume C++ & C# wouldn't be totally foreign. Do you need a separate compiler compatible with VS? Don Definitely a yes on the first question. MS did a very good job on the free versions, with the caveat that they can't be used for commercial work (iirc) and thus some good third party tools don't work with the Express editions. If you get the whole shebang, you have all the compilers supported, if you get the C/C++ package, you only have the C/C++ compiler, ditto with the C# package. You can choose what to install or not at setup time. C is not much like Pascal, but that said, shouldn't be that foreign. In the C family of language (C/C++/Objective C to name those), you can work quite close to the metal, and do manual management of memory, while Pascal was intended as a learning language if I remember correctly (it's been a very long time since I used the latter). C# is not really part of that family of language, beyond some syntactic resemblances, as it runs in a virtual machine, like Java and other modern high level languages. Plethora of online texts and intros on all those languages, as well as plenty of example code in the form of tutorials not too mention the plethora of open source programs out there that can serve as learning examples (of both what to do and not what to do while coding, but i digress ) Hope that helps ! Thanks, that makes it look worth having a play, think the C++ package might be the go. Don Quote
donaldseadog Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 Well I downloaded the free visual basic package (and necessary O/S updates) and have been playing around for a while. I had to get the local library to bring in an interlibrary loan to give me a few more tips but it is an interesting alternative to book reading. One day I'll produce something, maybe... Quote
donaldseadog Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 Well maybe something has come of this, I've posted up a zip file in the tools/mods download section containing my (first) Harpoon software tool. Its so simple it makes be giggle but I had fun doing it. Once I learn how to do ini files there will be a mod. I hope it encourages more scenario writing using some of the great custom databases that we have here. Thanks to Tony for putting up this thread and getting me thinking about all this. Quote
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