Jump to content

The F-35 Saga


Recommended Posts

Now in my mind: perhaps it will be better for market issues to name the F-35 as "Little Raptor" or "Baby Raptor".

 

I expect they'd rather not drag down the F-22 too much, even if they can't sell any more of them. :P

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From Defense Aerospace

 

[excerpt]

 

Pentagon F-35 Review Postponed Until Mid-June (excerpt)

(Source: Reuters; published May 27, 2011)

 

WASHINGTON --- A high-level Pentagon review of the Lockheed Martin Corp F-35 fighter program has been postponed from this week until June 14, three sources familiar with the scheduled meeting said on Friday.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From Flight Global

 

[excerpt]

 

DATE: 02/06/11

SOURCE: Flight International

Lockheed F-35C emerges as candidate for future US Navy contract

By Stephen Trimble

 

The Lockheed Martin F-35 has emerged for the first time as a candidate to replace a fleet of 556 Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornets as a carrier-based air dominance fighter for the US Navy after 2025.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Is it just me, or does "F-35 Air Dominance Fighter" sound suspiciously like "Pig Wearing Lipstick"? <_ it a strike aircraft fer crissakes one with decent air-to-air potential to be sure but striker just the same. src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_mad.gif" alt=":angry:">

 

It isn't just you. Would I rather have a bunch of F-35 in place of a bunch of F-16, yes. Would I rather have a bunch of F-35 in place of a bunch of F-22, no. The F-35 is in large part the high/low mix gone very bad (like high/nose up stalling). I'm sure it is a great plane for many situations but as these arguments have indicated, not an air superiority fighter vs other fifth generation combatants and maybe not even against 4+ generation opponents.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The F-35 ... not an air superiority fighter vs other fifth generation combatants and maybe not even against 4+ generation opponents.

 

Sobering thought when the NGAD is supposed to be a sixth generation fighter. <_<

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From Flight Global

 

[excerpt]

 

DATE: 06/06/11

SOURCE: Flight International

 

F-35 strikes trillion-dollar mark for maintenance bills

By Stephen Trimble

 

Perhaps the most alarming figure yet associated with the Lockheed Martin F-35 programme is in the last line of a 53-page cost estimate prepared in late 2010 by the US Department of Defense.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From DefenseNews

 

[excerpt]

 

F-35 Engine Maker to Slowly Lower Cost

By MARCUS WEISGERBER

Published: 6 Jun 2011 17:27

 

Engine maker Pratt & Whitney says it is incrementally lowering the price of its F-35 power plant and could possibly drop the cost even more as the Pentagon begins negotiating for the latest batch of fighter jets.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Very extense digest of reports about the doubts of the F-35 air-to-air capabilities:

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/The-F-...troversy-05089/

Some of these criticisms were echoed in the left-wing American Center for Defense Information’s Sept 8/08 briefing “Joint Strike Fighter: The Latest Hotspot in the U.S. Defense Meltdown.” This analysis by Pierre M. Spey, a key member of the F-16 and A-10 design teams, cast sharp doubt on the F-35’s capabilities:

 

“Even without new problems, the F-35 is a ‘dog.’ If one accepts every performance promise the DoD currently makes for the aircraft, the F-35 will be: “Overweight and underpowered: at 49,500 lb (22,450kg) air-to-air take-off weight with an engine rated at 42,000 lb of thrust, it will be a significant step backward in thrust-to-weight ratio for a new fighter…. [F-35A and F-35B variants] will have a ‘wing-loading’ of 108 lb per square foot…. less manoeuvrable than the appallingly vulnerable F-105 ‘Lead Sled’ that got wiped out over North Vietnam…. payload of only two 2,000 lb bombs in its bomb bay…. With more bombs carried under its wings, the F-35 instantly becomes ‘non-stealthy’ and the DoD does not plan to seriously test it in this configuration for years. As a ‘close air support’... too fast to see the tactical targets it is shooting at; too delicate and flammable to withstand ground fire; and it lacks the payload and especially the endurance to loiter usefully over US forces for sustained periods…. What the USAF will not tell you is that ‘stealthy’ aircraft are quite detectable by radar; it is simply a question of the type of radar and its angle relative to the aircraft…. As for the highly complex electronics to attack targets in the air, the F-35, like the F-22 before it, has mortgaged its success on a hypothetical vision of ultra-long range, radar-based air-to-air combat that has fallen on its face many times in real air war. The F-35’s air-to-ground electronics promise little more than slicker command and control for the use of existing munitions.”

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From DefenseNews

 

[excerpt]

 

Is the JSF Faster Than We Thought?

Posted by Bradley ***ton | June 23rd, 2011 | Paris Air Show 2011

By DAVE MAJUMDAR • PARIS — The F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) might be faster than previously reported.

 

In a briefing at the Paris Air Show on June 21, U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. C.D. Moore, deputy program executive officer for the F-35 program, said that the aircraft could fly at 750 knots and Mach 1.6. That would mean that at certain altitudes, the aircraft has a top speed that is considerably higher than previously known, although the Mach limit would remain the same.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

$19.8m for a single JSF engine :o

 

From Defense Aerospace

 

[excerpt]

 

Pentagon Contract Announcement

(Source: U.S Department of Defense; issued July 1, 2011)

 

United Technologies Corp., Pratt & Whitney, Military Engines, East Hartford, Conn., is being awarded a $19,811,545 modification to a previously awarded firm-fixed-incentive-fee/cost-plus-incentive-fee contract (N00019-09-C-0015) for the procurement of one Low Rate Initial Production 4 (LRIP 4) Conventional Take-Off and Landing propulsion systems for the Royal Netherlands Air Force.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From Aviation Week's Ares blog

 

[excerpt]

 

Slide The Dutchies To The Right Hand Side

Posted by Bill Sweetman at 7/11/2011 9:29 AM CDT

 

The Netherlands has decided to delay and stretch out its acquisition of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. In a July 1 letter to parliament, defense minister Hans Hillen says that a revised plan, reflecting the most recent schedule changes "starts the flow of production aircraft in 2019, and lasts until 2027".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...