In the SE when switching between the WestPac Battleset and the HDS9 Battleset a Get Annex message appears and SE crashed.

If any additional information is needed. pleaselet me know.

That is with the debug SE.  If you have the interest, run through similar processes in both debug and release SE (switching between legacy BattleSets, legacy to commondb, commondb to legacy, WestPac to Malacca, Malacca to WestPac, ...).  Maybe create a table of what crashes and what doesn't if you get super into it.

 

 

I have the same issue. Happens on most user scenarios. Consistently crashes every time I try to open a user scenarion on any battleset. Wscenedt32/rel/dbg also crashes.

I just returned to HCE and the beta was expired, updated DB to HCDB-250724 and now most user scenarios crash. Battleset scenarios seem ok so far.

10 hours ago, aviator said:

I have the same issue. Happens on most user scenarios. Consistently crashes every time I try to open a user scenarion on any battleset. Wscenedt32/rel/dbg also crashes.

I just returned to HCE and the beta was expired, updated DB to HCDB-250724 and now most user scenarios crash. Battleset scenarios seem ok so far.

What version of the scenario editor are you using? Can you post up the exact steps you take?

I am currently running 2025.025 on my laptop, and are not having any issues.

I opened the SE twice reversing the order of the files when I opened them. There were no issues.

I don't have my main computer. It's at the new apartment. I am running 2025.024 on that PC. I will check the first chance I get.

Tony, I wonder if that was when you had me switch which version of the SE I was using from the download.. The problem went away after that if I remember correctly.

Edited April 1Apr 1 by eeustice

12 hours ago, TonyE said:

What version of the scenario editor are you using? Can you post up the exact steps you take?

Wscenedt32rel/Wscenedt32dbg/Wscenedt32 - all are Build 2025.025.

The steps are:

1. Open scenario editor from explorer, select Battleset then File/Edit User Scenario, Select user scenario, Ok --> GetMemAnnexA Error

The same happens when I try to load the scenarios in the game.

2 hours ago, aviator said:

Wscenedt32rel/Wscenedt32dbg/Wscenedt32 - all are Build 2025.025.

The steps are:

1. Open scenario editor from explorer, select Battleset then File/Edit User Scenario, Select user scenario, Ok --> GetMemAnnexA Error

The same happens when I try to load the scenarios in the game.

Thank you, which scenario should I use to test?

11 hours ago, aviator said:

Wscenedt32rel/Wscenedt32dbg/Wscenedt32 - all are Build 2025.025.

The steps are:

1. Open scenario editor from explorer, select Battleset then File/Edit User Scenario, Select user scenario, Ok --> GetMemAnnexA Error

The same happens when I try to load the scenarios in the game.

One thought, are you trying to open a scenario that uses other than the standard database, if so then the necessary database needs to either replace the commondb database in hc root folder or be linked in the command line executing the SE (and GE).

For this reason it is good to start the GE with TonyEs game launcher or the SE with my SELauncher as they allow you to search and link the database (and battlesets\scenarios etc) at launch.

20 hours ago, TonyE said:

Thank you, which scenario should I use to test?

First one I tried: https://harpgamer.com/harpforum/files/file/953-fire-and-fury/

I downloaded the scenario fresh off Harpgamer as I sometimes edit the scenarios, and I wanted to rule out that cause for the error.

12 hours ago, donaldseadog said:

One thought, are you trying to open a scenario that uses other than the standard database, if so then the necessary database needs to either replace the commondb database in hc root folder or be linked in the command line executing the SE (and GE).

For this reason it is good to start the GE with TonyEs game launcher or the SE with my SELauncher as they allow you to search and link the database (and battlesets\scenarios etc) at launch.

Thank you for the suggestion. I've tinkered with the various iterations of Harpoon now for close to 20 years, still I do not really understand how the DBs integrate with the program. Troubleshooting has largely been reinstall or install stuff until it works.

I have a library of about 30-40 scenarios that I've collected throughout the years, and I find it challenging enough to separate them by Battleset. I honestly have no idea what Database belongs to what scenario. All I know is that all of them worked when I had the "Beta" version from Harpgamer that expired last year.

11 hours ago, aviator said:

Thank you for the suggestion. I've tinkered with the various iterations of Harpoon now for close to 20 years, still I do not really understand how the DBs integrate with the program. Troubleshooting has largely been reinstall or install stuff until it works.

I have a library of about 30-40 scenarios that I've collected throughout the years, and I find it challenging enough to separate them by Battleset. I honestly have no idea what Database belongs to what scenario. All I know is that all of them worked when I had the "Beta" version from Harpgamer that expired last year.

Some back ground: I guess its an historic thing, pre 2003 all battlesets had there own in built database so it was effectively selected from within the game when you selected which battleset you were going to play, and then from there you could select scenarios. Since 2003 the option (normal arrangement for 'new' battlesets) is that the database is external and as it can't be selected once the game starts you need to know before starting the GE which database you are going to want. The databases tend to relate to time periods so that's not so bad. So most of the xxx2003 battlesets and Westpac are like that, Malacca being an exception as it has the HCDB2 database embedded in it.

A scenario's required database will be listed in it's HarpGamer download page plus if you open the scenario file with a text editor and look at the first few lines of gobblygook you'll see some plain text including the database name, eg HCDB170909, that will be the database the scenario needs. (You don't need to do that if the scenario is from one of the pre 2003 legacy battlesets)

Loading a scenario that requires a different database to the one loaded into the GE gives an error message similar to your "GetMemAnnexA Error" but that doesn't mean for certain that's what's happened to you, but it's what brought this to my mind.

By default the GE loads the database from the commondb.res file in the main hc folder but a different database can be loaded by using a modified command line (eg by using HClauncher or SELauncher respectively for GE and SE, but also by other means more fiddly). Before HCLauncher the two common methods were to rename the database file needed as commondb.res and to swap it for the one in the root folder or to execute the GE (or SE) via a shortcut and manually write into the execute line the flag <-d ?> followed by the full pathname to the database file, Tony's GELauncher was an obvious godsend.

If all was working fine for you using the last beta and you were starting GE and SE straight from the respective executable in the hc folder (or from the default game menu) then I think you must have only been playing custom scenarios for the default (HCDB) database or legacy battlesets?

Don

16 hours ago, aviator said:

First one I tried: https://harpgamer.com/harpforum/files/file/953-fire-and-fury/

I downloaded the scenario fresh off Harpgamer as I sometimes edit the scenarios, and I wanted to rule out that cause for the error.

Thank you for the example scenario, what Don is describing is what is happening to you. That scenario expects the HCDB2 database however you have the HCDB database loaded. If you need help loading other databases like HCDB2, let us know. With the rapid advancement of AI programming tools, a game launcher much more capable than what we have today is pretty high up in my 'next 10' list of projects so we should see some relief from the drudgery of matching scenarios and databases in months rather than years.

Thanks for the replies. It's somewhat clearer now. I'm still not sure how to find the HCDB2 database, as none of my .rsr files have that name. I do have some txt files by that name, apparently just a changelog.

12 hours ago, aviator said:

Thanks for the replies. It's somewhat clearer now. I'm still not sure how to find the HCDB2 database, as none of my .rsr files have that name. I do have some txt files by that name, apparently just a changelog.

I'd suggest the best way is to prepare some folders named for each database you intend to use (I use subfolder 'HCDBs' with further subfolders for each database eg HCDB2, HCCW, HCWW) then just download the files fresh from the downloads section of harpgamer.

The thing is that the database files will generally all be named commondb.rsr as they were intially intended to be swapped in and out of the root HC folder. By having the individual folders and by using the custom 'launcher' programs (also in the downloads section) the complexity is negated. You can even give the database files unique file names. Otherwise you are continually having to move or rename the commondb files and easily loose track of which is which.

@TonyE and @donaldseadog thank you very much for your guidance. I had no idea how to work TonyEs game launcher, but do now. Databases are now placed in separate folders and Harpoon works as before.