HCE - 2008.050

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- Chg:0000 GE Enabled subs to shoot guns at ships. Subs still cannot shoot

guns at other subs. (thanks Rene)

 

I've attached my test rig in case anyone wants to use it to verify things are working. I have not tested to see if the AI will use guns against player ships and actually assume that it will not (verification would be good...).

SSvsShipGuns.zip

HCE - 2008.050

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- Chg:0000 GE Enabled subs to shoot guns at ships. Subs still cannot shoot

guns at other subs. (thanks Rene)

 

I've attached my test rig in case anyone wants to use it to verify things are working. I have not tested to see if the AI will use guns against player ships and actually assume that it will not (verification would be good...).

 

Ok, seems to work.

 

I´ve tested a player Sub vs Ship => works fine

PLayer Sub vs Helo => doesn´t work (is this intentinal?) the red AA Ring shows up and the Helo was in 1/4 of the AA Guns range!

 

What i have to test:

 

AI Sub vs ship and Aircraft

Player controlled works well.

 

The AI uses torpedos instead of guns, so going to have to make an all gun sub to test the AI use.

PLayer Sub vs Helo => doesn´t work (is this intentinal?) the red AA Ring shows up and the Helo was in 1/4 of the AA Guns range!

 

As the release notes say, sub vs. ship.

PLayer Sub vs Helo => doesn´t work (is this intentinal?) the red AA Ring shows up and the Helo was in 1/4 of the AA Guns range!

 

As the release notes say, sub vs. ship.

 

Ok.....

 

 

 

BTW An AI Sub with Guns only is diving in front of the enemy and evading hostilitys...

 

Discussed this with Akula Yesterday and we think this behaviour is ok/matches realtiy.

 

A sub will only engage low tread targets with guns. and not surface right in the middle of a CVBG engaging a CV with the gun after expending all torps

 

So the actual sub vs ship behaviour is close to perfection. Maybee at a later point the AI can learn to attack unarmed/weak armed ships in a low tread enviroment...

Sounds good.

Rene, any chance you can attach your test setup for posterity?

 

Thanks

 

Same for you Akula

Rene, any chance you can attach your test setup for posterity?

 

Thanks

 

Same for you Akula

 

 

Med2003 map...

 

sub is blue

 

ships are red side...

 

BTW there´s a minor error...

 

you can select torps as weapon in the attackscren for the Sub but it has no torps...

 

But this is rather cosmetical. I don not rember any Sub with a Gun only arment

 

 

A little Adition: When you select torps...... you also get the gun and it fires fine...

deckguns.zip

Rene, any chance you can attach your test setup for posterity?

 

Thanks

 

Same for you Akula

 

Med2003 map...

sub is blue

ships are red side...

BTW there´s a minor error...

you can select torps as weapon in the attackscren for the Sub but it has no torps...

But this is rather cosmetical. I don not rember any Sub with a Gun only arment

A little Adition: When you select torps...... you also get the gun and it fires fine...

 

Ok what we need now are Surface guns capable of firing on surfaced subs.

 

Otherwise a Sub with deck gun on the surface is nearly undefeatable by the AI and can run trough a convoy like a wolf in a sheepherd with a toothless sheepdog...

you can select torps as weapon in the attackscren for the Sub but it has no torps...

 

A little Adition: When you select torps...... you also get the gun and it fires fine...

 

The former is fixed in 2008.053 (unreleased as yet)

 

The latter seems to be fixed in 2008.052 (please test)