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I'm not sure of this request, or if this type of vessel worth a request, only to comment the well know existence of drug smugglers semi-submersibles, in this times of littoral warfare and low-tech menaces.

May be with a nuclear suitcase ..... ;)

 

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/art...s/20090626.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco_submarine

http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2008/0...ffiliate.91.pdf

Posted
I'm not sure of this request, or if this type of vessel worth a request, only to comment the well know existence of drug smugglers semi-submersibles, in this times of littoral warfare and low-tech menaces.

May be with a nuclear suitcase ..... ;)

 

The drug runner semi-submersible already exists in the HCDA ("Americas") database, and I'm not averse to putting it in the HCDB, but I am wondering if there would be any real need for it?

  • 3 weeks later...
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A new spanish navy series of ships, the BAM (Buque de Acción Marítima Oceánico/Oceanic Maritime Action Ship):

 

A big OPV of 2505 t, 20,5 knots speed.

1x 76/62mm (OTO Melara)

2x 25mm (Automatic)

2x 12,7mm

Unknow sensors (ARIES navigation?, helicopter control radar?)

Low level light, IR, ESM/ECM (Rigel/Regulus, space reserve?)

Decoy launchers (SRBOC Mk 36)

 

1 medium helicopter (AB212, NH90, SH-3D)

First ship in service 2010

Build to mercantile standards

CODOE (Combined Diesel or Electric) propulsion

Names:

P-41 Meteoro

P-42 Rayo

P-42 Relámpago

P-44 Tornado

(Names of very old spanish navy destroyers the first three, Tornado was name of a s.XIX sailing corvette)

A second batch approved, maximum total of 10-16 ships. Some variants can be Oceanographic, AGI or MCM.

 

 

 

http://www.armada.mde.es/ArmadaPortal/page...fich_tecnica_es

http://www.infodefensa.com/esp/noticias/no...Armada-española

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buques_de_Acc...n_Mar%C3%ADtima

http://news.webshots.com/photo/1232990187057693845vALIUp

http://www.deagel.com/Corvettes-and-Missil...a002247001.aspx

http://funkoffizier.wordpress.com/2008/12/...n-maritima-bam/ (more data, and pictures of other proposed variants)

http://www.buquesdeguerra.es/index.php?opt...8&Itemid=34 (more electronic/speculative data)

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Another matters, a pair of modern spanish radars:

 

Developed by INDRA Sistemas :

 

ARIES radar: a high resolution, LPI, surface search radar.

Used in at least Juan Carlos I, S-80, BAM.

http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Radar-...RIES-Spain.html

http://www.indra.es/servlet/ContentServer?...d=1083830063888 (very scarce data)

http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/462-4155.aspx (S-80)

http://www.buquesdeguerra.es/index.php?opt...s&Itemid=21 (Juan Carlos I)

 

LANZA-N radar: long range 3-D radar, developed from the mobile, land-based, LANZA. 180 n.m. range.

Used in Juan Carlos I.

http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Radar-...ZA-N-Spain.html

http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/karte107.en.html (instrumented range 250 n.m. for land version)

http://www.mde.es/dgam/obsevatorios/boletinn6.pdf (180 n.m. range for naval version, half size antenna)

  • 2 months later...
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As for the Spanish BAM names, they were used in frigates in the 50s.

 

More stuff to add/amend:

 

Aircraft:

 

1) There's no NATO F-16A of the "contract of the century" time, probably would be better to add to the INTL list copying the Egyptian one but with an air to air loadout added, needed for 1980s Cold War scenarios.

 

2) J-35 Draken. The only version is the late J-35J with AIM-9L and Skyflash equivalents, but not the earlier F model with SARH and IR AIM-4 Falcons. Also, the Danish J-35XD is missing, mainly a strike platform.

 

http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/text/35draken.htm

 

 

3) Finland used the J-35 and the MiG-21bis too.

 

Submarines:

 

The Poles had an 877E project class sub, the Orzel, but for my life, I can't find it anywhere!

 

Surface ships

 

1) Osa I boats, the INTL list includes only the East German and Yugoslav boats, would it be possible to to add some more boats?

 

2) T-43 minesweepers, there were some around the WP countries that lasted in the 80s.

 

3) Danish Peder Skram Class - is missing.

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aj.cashmore/denm...pederskram.html

Posted
Aircraft:

1) There's no NATO F-16A of the "contract of the century" time, probably would be better to add to the INTL list copying the Egyptian one but with an air to air loadout added, needed for 1980s Cold War scenarios.

2) J-35 Draken. The only version is the late J-35J with AIM-9L and Skyflash equivalents, but not the earlier F model with SARH and IR AIM-4 Falcons. Also, the Danish J-35XD is missing, mainly a strike platform.

3) Finland used the J-35 and the MiG-21bis too.

 

Adding aircraft to the HCDB is the most difficult request, due to the extremely limited space in the Loadouts annex. (Aircraft are pointless without loadouts). Lately I've been only considering adding them if: (1) they are of a type not otherwise represented in the DB; (2) they can use an already existing loadout; or (3) they are desperately needed for a scenario.

 

Submarines:

The Poles had an 877E project class sub, the Orzel, but for my life, I can't find it anywhere!

 

The Orzel appears under the INTL Kilo (877E) entry.

 

Surface ships

1) Osa I boats, the INTL list includes only the East German and Yugoslav boats, would it be possible to to add some more boats?

 

Sure, got the names or numbers handy?

 

2) T-43 minesweepers, there were some around the WP countries that lasted in the 80s.

3) Danish Peder Skram Class - is missing.

 

These are possibles.

Posted
Adding aircraft to the HCDB is the most difficult request, due to the extremely limited space in the Loadouts annex. (Aircraft are pointless without loadouts). Lately I've been only considering adding them if: (1) they are of a type not otherwise represented in the DB; (2) they can use an already existing loadout; or (3) they are desperately needed for a scenario.

 

I imagined, but thought the limit was only in installations. Would it be possible to make space by aggregating the different F-16AM? or adding an air-to-air loadout to the Egyptian bird from the existing loadouts?

 

1) Osa I boats, the INTL list includes only the East German and Yugoslav boats, would it be possible to to add some more boats?

Sure, got the names or numbers handy?

 

First 8 boats transferred 1963-68: Hel, Gdansk, Gdynia, Kolobrzeg, Szczecin, Elblag, Puck, Ustka

Last batch transferred 1971-75: Darlowo, Swinoujscie, Dziwnow, Wladylaslowo, Oksywie

 

Soviet Osas had R numbers, but there were some names, albeit I don't know what variant they were:

R-6 Brestskiy Komsomolets, R-24 Tambovskiy Komsomolets, R-55 Komsomolets Tartariy, R-79 Kirovsky Komsomolets, R-87 Amurskiy Komsomolets, R-175 Michurinskiy Komsomolets & R-141 Kronshtadskiy Komsomolets. Numbering would run R-1 to R-175 with some gaps.

 

Bulgarian names were: Burya & Taifun

Algeria: 641 to 643

Egypt: 301, 310, 323, 341, 356, 378, 389 & 390

Iraq: Hazirani, Kanun Ath-Thani, Nisan, Tamuz, I, II

India: Veer, Vidyut, Vinash, Nipat, Nirbhik, Nirghat

Romania: Soimul, Vulturul, Uliul, Acvila, Eretele

  • 2 weeks later...
  • 1 month later...
Posted

A not very important issue, it may be replaced by similar planes, the Pakistani F-16C/D Block 52+, to be delivered from December 2009:

 

Some data:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircr...istan_Air_Force

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article14.html

Equipped with ALQ-211:

http://www.asdnews.com/news/16751/Pakistan...AIDEWS_Pods.htm

Web site, in construction, about the PAF:

http://www.paffalcons.com/aircraft/index.php

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