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Defect Name: BOL range incorrect [2005] Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: Thunder Dragon [WestPac] User-built Long Description: When the BOL attack hotkey is selected for Ship Group ZPS, a very large Range circle appears. ZPS has weapons capable of BOL Attack, but their actual range is far shorter than the Range circle offered by the Assistant. Sequence to reproduce: 1. N/A - saved game available Expected behaviour: Range circle should show actual range of weapons. Observed behaviour: Range circle much larger than the maximum range of weapons. BOL_range_incorrect__2005_.zip

Defect Name: Convoy will not slow down [2006] Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: United We Sail Long Description: Convoy is ordered to stop but ignores order and returns to cruise speed Sequence to reproduce: 1. Order convoy to full stop. 2. Run at 1 min compression 3. Convoy re-starts movement at cruise speed Expected behaviour: Convoy should stop and remained motionless. Observed behaviour: Convoy re-starts on its own accord. Convoy_will_not_slow_down__2006_.zip

We've released a new version of the Harpoon3 PlayersDB. Today’s date is 08-01-01, so the new edition is PlayersDB 8.1.1 Why have we done this? Why not just continue to add new platforms to previous PlayersDB editions like we've always done? This release adds a powerful new feature to help both novice players and veterans alike. Harpoon 3 has been unique in its ability in utilizing customized ready times for aircraft instead of a standard 30 or 60 minute re-arming period. Unfortunately, databases are unable to display this information to the player. Today, this exclusive function has been added to the PlayersDB so that every loadout for every aircraft will now display the exact number of minutes required for that aircraft to re-arm. This change was made specifically to accommodate all the requests received from new players and has been implemented through the use of the Official AGSI Harpoon ANW Database editor. In order to take advantage of this valuable new function, scenarios must be re-built with this version or else the function will not be activated. Rather than run the risk of messing up someone's prior work, we've released a new version. Just continue to use the PlayersDB version specified by the scenario designer and everything will run exactly as written by the author. Get the PlayersDB-ANW on HarpDB, SubSim, or ughHQ. Get the PlayersDB on HarpDB, SubSim, or ughHQ. The unique features and advantages of the PlayersDB remain unchanged and include: A design philosophy of "Never delete - only append" . No more crash concerns due to rock-solid stability. Ships, planes, and subs have been indexed by country for your convenience Players can now see the launch altitude of the weapons. No more guessing at the launch parameters. Numerous special weapons and special platforms for designers. If you would like to see a special capability or platform for your scenario, let us know and it will be added for you. There is ample room for specialty units and player requests. One player has already been accommodated. He wanted to try Soviet Sub-Launched Land Attack missiles from Charlie-class SSGNs so we modified the torpedo tubes to allow him to test this new feature. Old versions of the DB will be retained. This is the only certain way to guarantee compatibility. Once a scenario is built, IT STAYS BUILT unless or until the author decides that he wants to adapt it to a newer version. This means that the scenario will play EXACTLY as the author intended. Comprehensive descriptions. Detailed text for subs, ships, aircraft, and weapons. Comprehensive mine model. Mines can now be swept by minesweepers and helicopters. Pre-configured Installations. Pre-arranged and precisely measured installations such as air bases can be inserted with a single click. Harpoon3.6.3 users can get the Complete Harpoon 3.6.3 Library Harpoon ANW users can get the Complete Harpoon ANW Library FilesOfScenShare

The 291st NEW Harpoon scenario of the year! #2.5 Suomenlinna - Yuri's Gambit This is the second scenario in the Battleset "21st Century Ocean Wars" War between NATO and Russia is imminent. The Russian forces on Kola will need unhindered access to the Atlantic. Admiral Yuri Padorin has drafted an alternative plan to deal with Finland. Author: Freek Schepers With over 127,000 PlayersDB scenarios downloaded in the last 37 weeks alone, the PlayersDB has proven itself the unequivocal players' favourite. Harpoon3.6.3 users can get the Complete Harpoon 3.6.3 Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7] The 21st Century Ocean Wars Battleset is available at: 21st Century Ocean Wars Battleset This scenario requires the latest release of the PlayersDB v7.4.7 Get it via: ughHQ, GameSquad, HarpGamer, SimHQ, Matrix, SubSim, or Frugal's World of Simulation. Harpoon ANW users can get the: Complete Harpoon ANW Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7-ANW] Home of the Harpoon3 PlayersDB FilesOfScenShare

A South American Arms Race? Friday, Dec. 21, 2007 By ANDREW DOWNIE/SAO PAULO Time First it was Venezuela, spending $4 billion on Russian fighter planes, Kalashnikovs and perhaps even submarines. Then it was Brazil, in August announcing a 53% increase in its military budget for 2008, the biggest such increase in more than a decade. The competition is still in the early stages but when two of Latin America's nouveau riche oil powers start splashing out on weapons, alarm bells ring over an arms race. Related Articles Indeed, Chavez's spending spree has given Brazil's long-dormant arms industry a bit of a political kick-start. Says Brazilian Senator Jose Sarney, a regular critic of Venezuela's president: "Hugo Chavez's armed forces have ordered 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles, 50 attack and transport helicopters, smart bombs, 24 Sukhoi Su-30 fighter planes. There is also talk of them buying nine submarines from Russia for $3 billion. It's very worrying. As Venezuela turns itself into a major military power, it obliges the other nations in South America to increase the power of their own forces. [An arms race] sadly seems to be getting under way." Not that Brazil and Venezuela have territory to fight over. Venezuela's border beefs are with its other neighbors, Colombia (over gas-rich waters) and Guyana (over areas west of the Essequibo river). He is unlikely to use arms to solve those disputes, either. His army is not as battle hardened as Colombia's — which has been fighting a prolonged civil war; and any intervention against Guyana is likely to draw in the U.S. and Guyana's former colonial ruler, Britain. What the military build-up does, however, is give Chavez's Venezuela added prestige in the continental battle for political supremacy. Chavez has brought together South America's radical leftists under his socialist banner; while Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva leads a more measured coalition of social democrats. The two men are friends but both countries are getting used to being at the political and economic vanguard of South America. Military strength helps with that. Brazil's past obsession was potential conflict with its southern neighbor, Argentina. That has passed into history. Venezuela's military spending, however, has forced Brazil to realize that its security needs have shifted. It must now protect its jungle frontiers in the north and west from the depredations of drug smugglers. And it must also police the territorial waters that are home to regular new finds of oil and gas. The forces it needs to do that have suffered from neglect and disrepair. A recent editorial in the newspaper O Estado de Sao Paulo said that almost two-thirds of the air force's planes and half of the navy's ships are unfit for their intended use. Lula has asked Brazil's Congress to allocate 10.13 billion reais for its 2008 military budget, or around $5.6 billion at the current exchange rate. Brazil has what it calls a "dissuasive" defense policy and the majority of its spending will go to non-aggressive weaponry such as transport planes, helicopters, communications equipment and armored vehicles, according to Defense Ministry officials and analysts. Around $70 million has been set aside for early work on a nuclear submarine. "There are very real security concerns that are being neglected," says Martin Joyce, the South America defense analyst for Jane's. "One is the Amazon region where drug traffickers are operating with impunity. Secondly, we are also seeing an increased presence of Colombian guerrillas and that requires mobility and that is whey we see helicopters and military airlift high on the priority list. Then there is the new oil reserves and part of the reason for the procurement of a nuclear submarine is because they said they need to protect those resources." "Venezuela," says Joyce, "comes fairly low down the list." But Chavez does give a face to the race and an impetus for nationalistic Brazilian politicians to vote for an increase in the military budget. Indeed, part of the proposed new funds will go toward resuscitating the country's dormant arms industry. "We had 1% [share] of the world's arms market in the 1970s and 1980s," says Reserve Colonel Geraldo Lesbat Cavagnari, coordinator of the Strategic Studies Group at Unicamp university. "We need to recuperate that industry and invest in it. That means producing for the Brazilian armed forces." Military powers controlled seven of South America's 10 countries as recently as 1980 but even then cross-border conflict was rare. Everyone would like it to stay that way. A regional arms race is hardly the best way to keep the peace.

If you play, you're a member of the community (whether you like it or not ). Your messages don't appear automatically since they first need approval from the site admins. If you play more versions of Harpoon, I think that you'd find that some versions crash more than others. Perhaps there should be a new standard of reference -- "Harpoon-quality". I don't think that it is reasonable to say that all the problems posted for HCE are easily noticeable. Take, for example, these Formation Editor anomalies. If a person sets up his patrols and just leaves things for the entire game, he won't notice them in the slightest. Only if he tinkers mid-game will he be in a position to notice something. Since you are interested in both ANW and HCE, I strongly encourage you to try out the ANW Demo (ftp://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/Harpoon3ANW/Harpoon_3_Gouge_Demo_1.exe). This is the public face of ANW since many folks will likely try it out before purchase. Go ahead and play it and see if you can identify some of the problems listed at: * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42076 You can decide for yourself if the problems are self-evident or if they are obscure. Since you haven't played it before, you would be in a perfectly objective position as to the seriousness of any problems you encounter; whether they pop out at you or if you have to dig hard to find them. There are 8 tutorial sessions and 6 scenarios for you to try. That should be plenty to prove your theory of "things showing up if you play them all the way through". Unfortunately, there is no HCCE demo available at the moment.

The 290th NEW Harpoon scenario of the year! 3.0 May Day First of May 1982 was when hostilities finally broke out around the Falklands. South Georgia had been liberated by the British and, early in the morning, a lone Vulcan bomber cut the runway at Port Stanley in half. The Argentineans had their army dug in around the Falklands, had attack planes dispersed around the islands, and the Air force and Navy were ready to meet the British forces. In the next three days, the General Belgrano and Sheffield were lost, air attacks proved the effectiveness of the Sea Harriers and SAMs; but also demonstrated their limitations and damaged many ships in the task force. Victory could go either way. Author: Freek Schepers With over 123,000 PlayersDB scenarios downloaded in the last 34 weeks alone, the PlayersDB has proven itself the unequivocal players' favourite. Harpoon ANW users can get the Complete Harpoon ANW Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7-ANW] The Falklands Battleset is available at: Falklands Battleset This scenario requires the latest release of the PlayersDB v7.4.7-ANW Get it via: ughHQ, GameSquad, HarpGamer, SimHQ, Matrix, SubSim, or Frugal's World of Simulation. Harpoon3.6.3 users can get the Complete Harpoon 3.6.3 Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7] Home of the Harpoon3 PlayersDB FilesOfScenShare

I agree. I remember seeing these problems in HC2002 and HCG. I never reported them at that time because I considered them relatively minor and didn't want to distract from the main effort. Perhaps I should have. Regardless, I still think that they are relatively minor. Now, this isn't a personal attack or criticism of anyone, but no one else reported these bugs, either. The lists at: ScenShare (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FilesOfScenShare/database) GameSquad (http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25815) HarpGamer (http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.php?showtopic=169) have been up for years. Anyone could have reported these behaviors at any time. The point is, no one mentioned them. They don't get fixed if someone doesn't report it. It appears as though you've followed through all the various incarnations of this game and have kept track of the features and functions as they changed. That's really superb. Please feel free to add your base of knowledge to the current effort. No one's stopping you from reporting on any of these sites. The rate at which things get fixed in HCE is positively mind-boggling when compared to other versions. A comprehensive list of problems hasn't even been started for HCE because they get fixed faster than the list could be edited. Other lists just grow, and grow,... Of course, it would be nice if a patch was released so that the repairs could be confirmed...

Yes, sir. Every day and twice on Sunday. I had a thought on possible causes. Could it be expecting a nuclear weapon in the Weapons Allocation window? The game did not grant me nuclear release at that time and I have not checked to see if a nuclear weapon would appear in the window if I hit Alt+F3, either.

I am involved with many of the bug reports for both ANW and HCE and I'll say that the stuff I've seen for HCE is comparatively minor compared to the game-killing whoppers I've run into. Lots of this stuff is simply quirky behaviour. The problem mentioned in this thread is one of them. It's annoying, but can, for the most part, be avoided if the player is diligent. Of the 15 or so reports for HCE, only 3-4 might be significant and cannot be worked-around. Compare this to the 30-40 monstrous ones out of the ANW list of 140+ and we're not even talking about apples and oranges, anymore. We're talking about ants and elephants, now.

Defect Name: No Standoff attack possible Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: Ambush Long Description: Sub group ordered to attack carrier group. Elects to attack the sub in the group with Stand-off weapon. However, Weapons Allocation window is blank. Sequence to reproduce: 1. Run No Standoff attack possible.hp2 2. Order subgroup ZWU to attack AFC submarines with Stand-Off weapon 3. Weapon allocation menu appears with no eligible weapons Expected behaviour: Eligible weapons should appear for selection or else the window should not be called. Observed behaviour: Allocation screen is blank. No_Standoff_attack_possible.zip

I know nothing. I see nothing. I hear nothing!

Defect Name: Patrol zones centred on wrong position Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: Patrol zones centred on wrong position.sc1 Long Description: Formation patrol zones are centred on different positions and not consistent This can cause major problems when trying to add new air or ship patrols. Sequence to reproduce: 1. Change zone size for formation to 1nm, 2nm, 3nm, 4nm. 2. Re-position ships by ordering them to the same zone they occupied before the ranges were changed Patrol zones centred on wrong position [assigned].gif 3. Run at high compression to allow ships to move to patrol zones 4. Hit Formation editor. 5. Re-order Storm into it's zone (marked in Yellow). 6. Do NOT issue formation orders for any other ships. Patrol zones centred on wrong position [assigned-again].gif 7. Run at high compression. 8. Storm races ahead and 'out' of the formation. Patrol zones centred on wrong position - Storm races ahead.gif Expected behaviour: Ship should move to assigned patrol zone relative to formation Observed behaviour: Ship do not move to assigned patrol zone relative to formation Patrol_zones_centred_on_wrong_position.zip

Defect Name: Patrol zones do not match positions Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: Patrol zones do not match positions.sc1 Long Description: Graphic circular display in formation editor does not match ship positions. Sequence to reproduce: 1. Change zone size for formation to 1nm, 2nm, 3nm, 4nm. 2. Re-position ships by ordering them to the same zone they occupied before the ranges were changed Patrol zones do not match positions [assigned].gif 3. Run at high compression to allow ships to move to patrol zones 4. Hit Formation editor. Patrol zones do not match positions [actual].gif 5. Ships are not in the centre of their assigned zones. Expected behaviour: Ships should move to their assigned patrol zones Observed behaviour: Ships do not move to assigned patrol zones Patrol_zones_do_not_match_positions.zip

Defect Name: Units do not move to new patrol zones Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: Units do not move to new patrol zones.sc1 Long Description: Units do not move to new patrol zones when size of zones is changed Sequence to reproduce: 1. Change formation zone sizes to: 10nm, 20nm, 30nm, and 40nm. 2. Do NOT make any changes to ship assignments. 3. Run at high compression to allow ships to move to new zone 4. After formation is stabilized, check distances between ships. Type 42 has been assigned a zone between 20-30nm and should thus be 25-30nm from the ship at the centre of the formation (CVH) Units do not move to new patrol zones [after].gif 5. Check range between ships in unit display and DDG is only 9nm from CVH. Units do not move to new patrol zones [range].gif Expected behaviour: Units should move to new patrol areas when zone size changes Observed behaviour: Units do not move to new patrol areas when zone size changes Units_do_not_move_to_new_patrol_zones.zip

Defect Name: Sub ignores patrol zone Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: Sub ignores patrol zone.sc1 Long Description: Sub ignores assigned formation patrol zone. This problem was first identified by Mark Kratzer. Sequence to reproduce: 1. Start Sub ignores patrol zone.SC1 in GIUK battleset from USSR side 2. Select sub group ZPU 3. Order sub group to detach the SSGN Echo from the group and only leave the Victor within the group 4. Run compression at high speed 5. You can see that the Victor has been assigned to the SE quadrant, but it never goes there. 6. The sub runs at 19kts to some imaginary point to the SW. The group icon and the unit icon do not match and get further and further away from one another. 7. Select the Victor in the Unit display window and enable the "Lock" box and watch as the unit display pulls away from the group icon. Expected behaviour: Unit should move to assigned formation patrol zone. Observed behaviour: Unit does not move to assigned formation patrol zone. Sub_ignores_patrol_zone.zip

Defect Name: Map disappears in SE Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: any Battleset scenario Long Description: Map disappears in SE when battleset is re-opened Sequence to reproduce: 1. Open WestPac battleset in SE 2. Select scenario #1 - Walk-through 3. Map disappears in SE (before).gif appears 4. Hit Alt+B (Edit Battleset scenario) command 5. When the Select Scenario screen appears, hit "Cancel" and you will be returned to the Battleset selection window. 6. Select WestPac, again and hit OK 7. Select scenario #1 - Walk-through 8. Map disappears in SE (after).gif appears Expected behaviour: Map should appear every time scen is loaded Observed behaviour: Map does not appear when scen is loaded Map_disappears_in_SE.zip

Defect Name: [CTD] SE on Alt start point Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: [CTD] SE on Alt start point.sc1 Long Description: ScenEdit will throw General Protection Fault error when multiple windows have been opened regardless of how those windows are closed. Sequence to reproduce: 1. Select unit ZZC from test scen 2. Hit Cntrl+V (Alt start points) 3. Hit Edit button twice 4. If you try to exit out of the command by hitting cancel or anything else, you throw the GPF. _CTD__SE_on_Alt_start_point.bmp Expected behaviour: Multiple windows should not be opened. If opened, they should close with the Cancel command. Observed behaviour: Cancel command does not successfully close windows. _CTD__SE_on_Alt_start_point.zip

Defect Name: [CTD] Multiple windows open in SE Build: HCE 2007.000 Repeatable: Y Operating System: XP DB used: HCDB-070524 Scenario used: [CTD] Multiple windows open in SE.sc1 Long Description: ScenEdit allows multiple windows to open on Alt Start point command (Ctrl+V). Sequence to reproduce: 1. Select unit ZZC from test scen 2. Hit Cntrl+V (Alt start points) 3. Hit Edit button twice 4. Two windows open. Expected behaviour: Multiple windows should not be opened. Observed behaviour: Only a single window should be opened when Edit button depressed. _CTD__Multiple_windows_open_in_SE.zip

Today, we welcomed the SeaQueen into the MP community. We wanted a quick introductory ASuW game so selected the ever popular Dawn Patrol, made with the Harpoon community's favourite database, the PlayersDB. SeaQueen took the Russians while I took the Norwegians. We took most of our time stalking each other's missile boats with the radar off. It was a very suspenseful experience. I stumbled across one Nanuchka with PTM Hugin and immediately activated my radar while releasing a full salvo of Penguin at her. My Penguins struck home, but her return fire also claimed the Hugin. To add insult to injury, she had discovered PTM Vidar and Mysing, too. Unbeknownst to me, SS-N-9 Sirens were inbound for them, too. All three boats were lost and the game was very much in flux. I had to kill one more Nanuchka without losing 2 of my boats or I would lose. As I combed the waters for the other missile boats, sonar detected one. Instead of turning on my radar for a second Penguin missile salvo, I elected to engage with guns. I smashed the second boat and was soon awarded victory. A really good game, SeaQueen. Thanks for the match and to HarpGamer for hosting it. Anyone looking for an MP game can drop a line here or look for us on HarpGamer pHp chat room or the HG mIRC chat room.

The 289th NEW Harpoon scenario of the year! The Backyard The Cold War finally went hot and furious as battles arose around the world. This scenario deals with a U.S. multi-carrier attack supported by Japanese forces in the Western Pacific. The U.S. forces must neutralize the Soviet fortresses in the theatre. Those Red bases are heavily protected. This scenario was originally written by Ralf Koelbach for Harpoon Classic Commanders Edition and has been re-made for Harpoon3 and the PlayersDB with the consent of the author. Author: Herman Hum With over 117,000 PlayersDB scenarios downloaded in the last 36 weeks alone, the PlayersDB has proven itself the unequivocal players' favourite. Harpoon ANW users can get the: Complete Harpoon ANW Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7-ANW] The HCE WestPac Battleset is available at: HCE WestPac Battleset This scenario requires the latest release of the PlayersDB v7.4.7-ANW Get it via: ughHQ, GameSquad, HarpGamer, SimHQ, Matrix, SubSim, or Frugal's World of Simulation. Harpoon3.6.3 users can get the Complete Harpoon 3.6.3 Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7] Home of the Harpoon3 PlayersDB FilesOfScenShare

Aha! I knew that I'd seen this darned thing before. http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.php?s...post&p=1766 June 6, 2006. Almost the same letter grouping, too --> BEA

AlvinS came looking for another match, today. The last time we clashed, we did ASuW so this time, he wanted some ASW. We selected the ever popular Power Sweep, made with the Harpoon community's favourite database, the PlayersDB. We each took a turn playing both sides. The most memorable part of the session was when I was playing NATO and stalking his Russian subs. SSN Swiftsure got a sonar conact near her baffles and panicked. She fired a pair of Spearfish at the contact she believed to be tracking her before evading. Unfortunately, the sonar contact proved to be a false one. And, in running away, she had made enough noise to be counter-detected by a Tango-class boat which promptly dropped a nuke on her head! However, my SSK Kobben managed to save the day as she crept up on the surviving SSGN Charlie and Tango boats to sink both of them with a single volley of 3 Tp 61 torpedoes, each. A really good game, Alvin. Thanks for the match and to HarpGamer for hosting it. Anyone looking for an MP game can drop a line here or look for us on HarpGamer pHp chat room or the HG mIRC chat room.

I just tested the saved game file and can confirm that this occurs. Good report, Mack.

Over 23 new aircraft, ships, submarines, facilities, classes, countries, and weapons have been added to the Harpoon3 PlayersDB with the official Database editor issued by AGSI. Get the PlayersDB 7.4.7-ANW on Gamesquad, HarpDB, or ughHQ. Get the PlayersDB 7.4.7 on Gamesquad, HarpDB, or ughHQ. Additions include: {}CVN Nimitz [Damaged] USN 94 A/C Hangar Large (2 VL) Airfield [Large] Airfield [small] FFG Underwood USN 05 Mi-17 Hip IND Mi-8 Hip C IND PG Shaldag MkII IL 04 - countless changes and improvements guaranteed not to crash any earlier scenario built with the PlayersDB Harpoon3.6.3 users can get the Complete Harpoon 3.6.3 Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7] Harpoon ANW users can get the Complete Harpoon ANW Library [PlayersDB-7.4.7-ANW] Home of the Harpoon3 PlayersDB FilesOfScenShare SubSim