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I've got too much HUCE backlog to start up with the incredibly fragmented H2/3 world again. Not to mention the "We're better!", "No, we're better!" BS that has gone on with this game for years. What you guys don't realize is that while you all may have your causes and I'm sure you're in the right...regardless, it just drives people away. Scenarios are fragmented so badly, and, frankly, with HUD-3 or 4 I *still* get a lot of CTDs. Enough of them that I just shrug and go back to HCE. At least there I know Tony's around, and will eventually fix reproducible bugs if they're important.

 

Nothing personal against anyone here on the H3 side, but it's just a morass these days.

 

(Keep in mind I paid for the Ultimate package, knowing I wouldn't use H3 much, so I am trying to support things.)

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I'm sorry to hear you are getting so many crashes--this probably varies from computer to computer, but I have found the updated ANW 3.11 to be more stable than 3.6. I have fewer problems with it. In fact, it is really quite rare for me to have a game crash at all. The upgrade to 3.11 is free, so you may want to try it someday and see if that makes a difference.

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I'm sorry to hear you are getting so many crashes--this probably varies from computer to computer, but I have found the updated ANW 3.11 to be more stable than 3.6. I have fewer problems with it. In fact, it is really quite rare for me to have a game crash at all. The upgrade to 3.11 is free, so you may want to try it someday and see if that makes a difference.

I was using the 3.10.1.0 release version. I guess I'll check the 3.11 and see from there, when I have time. Problem is, the banned project doesn't have the crashes. Good luck to you.

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After some further poking around, I have realized that the HUD4 DB is locked and can't be fiddled with. Sorry, but that means I won't be using it for anything.

 

Of all the things you could have done, that was probably the worst one. Good luck, and thanks for you doing *your* part to further the cancer on H3.

 

If you want more info on why I feel this way, I'll happily reply by PM, but I won't put it here out of respect for Tony/Brad/etc.

 

(Don't expect replies from me. I've had my say, and promised Brad I'd not post any more here. I've already said what I had to say about the encrypted DB. Good luck with all your endeavors, Gunny. )

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After some further poking around, I have realized that the HUD4 DB is locked and can't be fiddled with. Sorry, but that means I won't be using it for anything.

 

Of all the things you could have done, that was probably the worst one. Good luck, and thanks for you doing *your* part to further the cancer on H3.

 

If you want more info on why I feel this way, I'll happily reply by PM, but I won't put it here out of respect for Tony/Brad/etc.

 

Actually, it was Gunny's decision. I'm not the database editor; I just write scenarios. It's not my fault! :) More seriously, I know that some people are annoyed about not being able to edit the HUD-4 themselves, but Gunny was very concerned about the possibility of theft of intellectual property and also about the problems created when you've got "too many cooks in the kitchen." I do not know enough about database editing or about the actual intentions of other people in the Harpoon community to know if he is more concerned than he needs to be, but it is his database. If you are really interested in helping edit the HUD-4, please contact Gunny privately; he may just give you the password.

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To be clear, I haven't seen any grandiose claims from HUD4 about being "superior" to other databases, contrary to their opposite.

 

As for locking down the HUD4 database, it is regrettable that its author feels it is necessary, but having been around for all of what has transpired and being a database author myself, I can certainly understand why. Others have taken (and are taking) similar measures because of that history.

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Let me add that, despite my own personal annoyance with some of the people connected with the Players Database, I'm not trying to tell people not to use it if it is what they like. It is out there, and there are many scenarios written for it, and it works well for some people. The HUD-4 is another option and I hope people will try it out and see if it works for them, too. In fact, there is no need to choose; it is very easy to switch between databases in ANW so there is no reason not to use as many databases as one likes.

 

In the end, I support the HUD-4 simply out of personal preference, partly just because I like the way it "feels" and partly because it seems to be the most stable database on my computer and partly because Darren was my friend and Gunny is my friend and I want to do what I can to see their efforts successful and appreciated. So it's what I use to write scenarios.

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HUD4 was locked for the following reason: someone we all know tried to upload HUD4 into the Reimer Editor, without my permission. Since this person has the despicable habit to grab other's ideas (BTW, Mark, your color palette has been copied, welcome to the club), and then claim it is "original", I thought it would be necessary to have my work protected. I don't earn anything editing a DB, it's free time spent to give pleasure to others, So I consider that my work should be respected, but respect isn't what comes in mind when describing the other side's characteristics.

 

FG

 

@Mark: I took a bit delay in my schedule, RL issues that need to be addressed. Expect a new one soon.

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Mavfin, sorry for you, I don't feed any H3 cancer. Prove me that I've ever used any rude word at the other side. See what happened to them, Vicenzo Beretta being the last one to be banned from Matrix Games after using rude words. See how Mr Hum insults me on Gamesquad, he shouldn't do this, he's the less qualified for criticizing other's work.Any facts? Here they come:

-Players'Database is originally a copy of Ragnar Emsoy's DB2k. No credit for it, the minimum politeness

-Players' Database pictures, an original idea from Darren Buckley

-Harpoon for Dummies channel on Youtube, an original idea from Dale Hillier

-Players' Database palette, an original idea from Mark Gellis

 

Of course, there are bugs in HUD4, but when you engage yourself on the high road, it's the risk. It's easier when using less elaborated features. Be also sure, and some here will testify I don't lie, that I try to fix bugs. Sometimes solution doesn't appear at once, but in life, patience is a virtue.

 

FG

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Let's not let this get out of hand, guys. You all know the rules.

 

Players don't need to use another's database if they don't want to, and the database author doesn't need to rationalize his approach to the player.

 

But we will avoid a flame fest here. Enough of that krap already out there and available elsewhere.

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