November 27, 201015 yr World War II - 1941 Battleset. File Name: Hsdu.res + hsdu.rsr File Submitter: MavGaz File Submitted: 27 November 2010 File Category: BattleSets DB Used: HCWW_101110 embedded Authors: MavGaz Battleset: World War II - 1941 Battleset Scenarios: WWII - May 1941 - Hunting of Bismarck This BattleSet is ment to be mainbase for the world war scenarios episodes during 1941 in WWII. This is in testing process where I will be gratfully to receive any opinion, correction or sugestion, even if is criticize. This is my first work in Moding or creating scenarios and battleset. .So it is possible to require few details or modifications. I will be available to any changes and I send any file you need for changes. Moreover I want to thank to TonyE and CV32 for the constant support and lovely hoby job which still make Harpoon game working. Also without their help in the contruction of the battleset and scenario, and without WWII database of CV32 would be impossible to create it. The Battleset only have one scenario for now: WWII - May 1941 - the hunting of Bismarck ( This scenario was built whit some study on the event and try to be represent as real as possible. It has the untis envolved in this event and some suport of bases and planes for some strategic balance for each side. It was dificult to manage the total realistic progress on bouth sides, caused by the computer player behaivor) More scenarios will appear. Click here to dowload this file I will wait for your the feedback for the final update. I'm looking forward your comments. PS: This may have some gramatic mistakes, please tell me or ignore them.. ...English isn't famous... ################## Update #################### Testing RED side: - It's been compleet the goal with the follow status Blue Side 6 ships sinked 1 ship damaged 22 planes killed Red Side 2 ships damaged 6 planes killed debriefing: Set Bismarck Group arround the coast of Scandinavia until Bergen base Set course to North of Iceland Detection near 50miles farway 2 CAs near island channel between Iceland and Greenland Keeping the distance to the CAs and going foward follwing the coast of Greenland The CAs still keeping following Bismarck Group Contact with the Hood Group and change of shoots, sinking Hood and Prince of Wales, Bismarck and Prinz Eugen damanged Reduce speed due of Prinz Eugen damaged to 25knots Following course to south end of Greenland. Contact with Birmigan CA, was sinked Contact with Arethusa CA, was Sinked Reach the south end of greeland Aprouch of Norfolk and Sufolk CAs, Sufolk sinked Start course to La Rouchele Base Contact with Dorsetshire, sink of the CA Middle course between Greenlad and Brest, Contact of Carrier Group aprouching.. Split the group to reach 29 knots and run from carrier group leaving Prinz Eugen Alone. Attack of swordfish plane well defended with the destroyers cover. Run of the two groups sucessfull Course set to La rouchele and in the Biscay Bay set course to Brest base. *** Problems Reaching the GOAL, But Bismarck group and Prinz Eugen Safely reach Brest Base, GOAL Complete. Testing BLUE side: - It's been compleet the goal with the follow status Blue Side 3 ships sinked 1 ship damaged 56 planes killed Red Side 4 ships sinked 1 Ship damage 8 planes killed debriefing: Starting formation of the north UK bases to patrol coast of Norway. Put the SS patroling the Norway coast trying to intercept the Bismarck Detection of Bismarck group near Bergen Base. Follow the contact with catalina planes Change course of hood group, victorious group, and CAs to intercept Bismarck. Change the swordfish planes of the south bases to the carrier CAs reach bismarck and start to follow him but keeping the distance. Hood group intercep and engage bismarck group. 2 destroyers sunk, bismarck and prinz eugen damaged reducing speed to 16knots Hood and prince of wales sunk. Victorious launch the 56swordfish attack the bismarck group. Attack sucessfull however with heavy losses Last Destroyer sunk and the battleships catch more damage forcing speed to 8knots Mistake aproximation of one CA to bismarck group, CA sunk Slipt victorious group two battleships, Repulse and King George V. setting course to Bismarck Final contact King george V sink Bismarck and Prinz Eugen Damaged Goal Completed and Victory condition appear. Problems detected: Game engime - Attack with guns is time limited agianst AI side be substantially short - All AI side fleet set course to intercept Bismarck group even when is not detected. - Any Submarine can hit ship with the torpedos after several attacks. - Confirmation of the disaventage between the Allies figthers against Arado196. Strategic - torpedos don't have any success so sub not give any defense to Bismarck group and are slower to intercep - Along the course the group of Bismarck are with lack of support - The defence of the destroyers are really good agains the plane attack from the carriers - Bismarck Group need some support of Knodor planes from france. - Victory condition of RED Side isn't working as the orders. - The low effectiveness against ships using aircraft Realism - The destroyers don't have the fuel range to following Bismarck group between bregen and brest. - Confirmation of the disaventage between the allies figthers against Arado163. - The soon detetection of bismarck is caused by the player know his route. Maybe will be necessary to reinforce the airsuperiority of norway coast. Update done: WWII - 1941 - Battleset - Try to solve the engime problems - Delayed - Insert Pictures of the units of the missions - Done - fix the supremacy of Arado163 - Delayed WWII - 1941 - May 1941 - hunting of bismarck - scenario - Insert some Kondor Planes at the west france bases. - Done - Start RED side formations corrections - Done - RED Victory conditions problem fix - Done - Reinforce the Axis airsuperiority in norway coast - Done Edited October 20, 201114 yr by Mavgaz
November 27, 201015 yr I just gave it a try - very nice change of pace from the almost 'instant action' modern scenarios. I had a tough time with the Arado 163 seaplanes, they killed my patrols over the north sea left and right. Nevertheless I spotted two destroyers, Bismarck and Prinz Eugen pretty early. I've sent the CV group around Victorious to an intercept and after some more skirmishes with the Arados located them. I launched all of my torpedo bombers in groups of 4 Swordfish's against the battle group. Unfortunately all were shot down by Arados and AAA before any torpedo was launched. Somewhat frustrated I stopped the scenario then - guess I have to re-work my WWII tactics! I noticed that two bases in England are located on top of each other. I think ACa and ABa?
November 27, 201015 yr The Ar.196A-3 in the WWII DB has: 20mm MG151/20 air burst PK=.33 ammo=5 / =0.33x5=1,65 PK 7.92mm MG air burst PK=.25 ammo=10 / 0.25x10=2,5 PK Conclusion, in each sortie an Ar.196A-3 can kill 1,65+2,5 = 4,5 planes, the Ar.196A-3 pilot can be an ace almost in each sortie !!! More when we reckon about the probability of a kill with the single aft 7.92mm is almost a 33% more than with the two frontal 20mm guns !!! And remember because limitations in the game engine, all the guns are firing in the frontal arc. (Incidentally the Ar.196A-3 has 2x20mm MG FF guns with 60 rpg, no the more effective 2x20mm MG151/20)
November 28, 201015 yr I just gave it a try - very nice change of pace from the almost 'instant action' modern scenarios. I had a tough time with the Arado 163 seaplanes, they killed my patrols over the north sea left and right. Nevertheless I spotted two destroyers, Bismarck and Prinz Eugen pretty early. I've sent the CV group around Victorious to an intercept and after some more skirmishes with the Arados located them. I launched all of my torpedo bombers in groups of 4 Swordfish's against the battle group. Unfortunately all were shot down by Arados and AAA before any torpedo was launched. Somewhat frustrated I stopped the scenario then - guess I have to re-work my WWII tactics! I noticed that two bases in England are located on top of each other. I think ACa and ABa? I found that using different versions of the Game Engine (from the beta testing area, latest files) can give very different results in the WWs database games. There has been a lot of work done with close range guns/ cannon. I only wish I could remember which game version I preferred Don
November 28, 201015 yr I'm still using the HUCE edition as released, no beta patches or anything applied. If the close range gunnery is different now, it should also affect my Vietnam scenarios ... I find AAA to be really effective there, having to fly at medium or high really most of the time until it's been taken care of.
November 28, 201015 yr Author I just gave it a try - very nice change of pace from the almost 'instant action' modern scenarios. I had a tough time with the Arado 163 seaplanes, they killed my patrols over the north sea left and right. Nevertheless I spotted two destroyers, Bismarck and Prinz Eugen pretty early. I've sent the CV group around Victorious to an intercept and after some more skirmishes with the Arados located them. I launched all of my torpedo bombers in groups of 4 Swordfish's against the battle group. Unfortunately all were shot down by Arados and AAA before any torpedo was launched. Somewhat frustrated I stopped the scenario then - guess I have to re-work my WWII tactics! I noticed that two bases in England are located on top of each other. I think ACa and ABa? Hi.. Thanks for testing the scenario and give the opinion. I realized arado 163 can shoot outher planes. That was the main reason for existing of fightes in this base and carriers. With those fighters you can aircover and destroy the Arado163 planes. The scenario it's not easy task to reach the goal..However with your opinion I'm working to be a good scene and create a good confit between ships and planes. If you want to be with Allies. After find bismarck you have intercept him with Battleship and aircover fighter to kill all of his planes, then you can engage him and send many planes to damage him. However you have be prepared to have heavy casualities. I'm looking foward more opinions, and thanks for your post. Good Victory MavGaz
December 13, 201015 yr Author Update was done. However some problems has to be fixed in the game engine. It will required some time for the programers of the game can fix it. Those problems are delayed to further HCE update. WWII - 1941 - Battleset - Try to solve the engime problems - Delayed - Insert Pictures of the units of the missions - Done - fix the supremacy of Arado163 - Delayed WWII - 1941 - May 1941 - hunting of bismarck - scenario - Insert some Kondor Planes at the west france bases. - Done - Start RED side formations corrections - Done - RED Victory conditions problem fix - Done - Reinforce the Axis airsuperiority in norway coast - Done I hope you enjoy it.
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