I don't know what's been wrong, lately.

 

I wiped my Windows install about a month & a half ago. After reinstalling HCE, some enemy groups do not show in the group window.

 

It did that with the 2008.44 version, I reinstalled/repatched HCE and it was still doing it. I updated to v 2009.035 and still no help. All using 090427 DB. It's done it on a couple different battlesets. I have no idea what's going on but I don't recall it doing this a few months ago.

 

My most recent example is the Serhiy scenario I'm going to upload the save for. It's user-created but that hasn't mattered as the stock ones are doing it, too. Anyway, there are a lot of ground & air units detected by ESM/passive means that aren't showing on the group map but show on the unit map. Also, I've noticed an AEW aircraft that has been ID'd and has no yellow diamond yet it only shows on the unit map.

 

I'm not sure if something got splattered when I did two reinstalls again, since it's been awhile.. perhaps I'm missing an earlier patch? 2008.44 said "comprehensive" so I figured it was a fully up-to-date one. Do I also need to install a previous update before that one?

 

Halp!

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Upon taking a quick look at your save I'm not seeing any missing groups. I do see planes and land units in formation of airfields though (ZZ11 Armor and ZY10 are two examples). The i key toggles showing group and unit IDs, the first two letters will match in the Unit and Group windows for Units that belong to a particular group (ZZ11 is part of group ZZa, ZY10 is part of group ZYa). Hopefully this is what you are seeing rather than missing groups. Admittedly the formation patrols can be tricky like that, sometimes scenario designers do that on purpose (put an air defense unit right in front of an airfield but the air defense unit is really part of a different group, tricks the player...).

 

For UI rewrite I'm hoping to allow (i.e. toggleable) showing of group centers on the Unit window and units on the group map in such a way that the non-native icons are easily identified as such (i.e. unit on group map might be half-way faded out).

Perhaps those yellow enemy air units on the unit map are old contacts or part of an ID'd group. But the thing that really threw me off is the Mainstay near the northeast of the map. It shows on the unit map as red (and a 1 ship group) but doesn't show on the group map at all. I happened across it when trying to see what type of a/c was in a 4-ship nearby and noticed it in the unit window. I recall getting a staff contact report on it previous to that and didn't see it at all until I stumbled over it in the unit window.

 

As for the ground contacts being separate, I believe that was done by the scenario creator in this instance. That hasn't really bothered me as much as the missing AEW or un-ID'd groups of aircraft (yellow) not showing up on the group map at all, inside a diamond. I don't recall it happening like that in the past.

Ehhh.. nevermind. I guess there were just a lot in the airbase formations. The problem was between my keyboard and my chair.

 

Though I'd like to see some indication of air units (that are in the air) in the data window for bases. I think that's why I didn't account for them as their numbers were missing from the other groups and doesn't show anything different for the bases themselves even though they're flying around in their formation rings.

 

I'll call it Accountant Panic. The info window numbers didn't add up! I'm rusty - that's my excuse.

That's okay, I spent three hours today wondering why the game was loading random scenarios instead of the scenarios I specified on the command line. The Instant Action checkbox was checked...