1) A Mirage 2000 and F-15 are approaching one another. The Mirage is armed with Magic AtA missile which has a range of 6.0nm while the F-15 is armed with a Sidewinder with a range of 9.6nm.

 

Does this mean the F-15 gets to fire its AtA missile first since it will be in range first (using engagement turns)?

 

And depending on the missile and planes speeds, the sidewinder may shoot down the Mirage before it gets within range to fire its Magic (within 6.0nm)? (Maybe i have answered my own question, rule 6.3.3.2.1 says in the engagment turn a missile reaches a plane the plane must evade and therefore cant fire).

 

If the sidewinder does not reach the mirage before the mirage gets within 6.0nm then its possible both planes have fired AtA missiles and there results are determined seperatley. So both planes may shoot each other down?

 

Assuming both planes survive long range missile engagement, 6.3.3.3 says aircraft ending movement within 5.0nm of each other are in "dog fight". So if both survive then they enter dog fight rules, is this right?

 

 

2) Page 6-8 Dog fight example extending to page 6-9.

Is the example right?

"the combatants fire in order of successful die rolls". So wouldnt F-14#1 which rolled 02 fire before anything else? It looks like the example has the planes with highest successful die roll shooting first rather than the plane which rolled lowest (succeeding by the most).

 

 

3) A plane has 3rd generation J&D (jam and decoy?), and is up against a 3rd generation missile. Using Air-to-Air Combat table on page 6-6 does the defending plane add both +1.5 to its AtA rating for 3G ECM (the Jam portion) and also add a further +1.5 for using decoys to its AtA????

 

 

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Hi KC,

 

Should air to air combat be your next serious undertaking, I'd recommend that you look into picking up Naval Sitrep #31 (October 2006) for the simplified Air Combat Rules that will replace what is found in the H4.1 rules when the unification project is complete. I realize its a long term ongoing process but the "new" rules do streamline air combat and will become standard in the relatively near future.

 

You can read through the procedure, at least my choking through it, using the new rules in the H4 folder here at hargamer.

 

New Air Rules Discussion

 

New Air Rules Question

 

French Connection

 

I like the simplified air rules.

Hey guys. A couple more questions.

 

I know i have found and read the terms in H4.1 before but looking today i cannot find them grrrrrrr.

 

What does RWR mean? Page reference??

 

LD/SD is lookdown/shootdown can someone give me a page reference?

 

I have an F-15 firing a AGM-65 at a ship. Can i do so from any elevation? Does elevation ever apply to aircraft firing anti ship missiles? I guess the tactical consideration about altitude is the higher you are, the further your radar LOS (& of course the easier to see you are).

 

thanks

What does RWR mean? Page reference??

 

Radar Warning Receiver. See Rule 4.3 on page 4-5.

 

LD/SD is lookdown/shootdown can someone give me a page reference?

 

See Rule 4.2.4.3 on page 4-4.

 

I have an F-15 firing a AGM-65 at a ship. Can i do so from any elevation? Does elevation ever apply to aircraft firing anti ship missiles? I guess the tactical consideration about altitude is the higher you are, the further your radar LOS (& of course the easier to see you are).

 

I think Maverick variants are launched at Low altitude? (There are maximum range limitations that are sometimes dependent on launch altitude).

thanks for the help. I'll look them all up now.

 

I'm away for a week over easter and will be out of internet access (think remote surfing safari!!!). But i'm hoping to have some AAR's to put up, and maybe some more questions or clarifications.

 

The next thing i hope to look at is helecopters dropping sonar bouys and trying to find a sub. I havent looked at the rules yet but i'm looking forward to it.

B-9 of the data annex has the AH-64 Apache, and shows it capable of 2 LAU-3A rocket pods. Where can i find the rocket pod stats in the data annex, i havent been able to find it?

 

F-15E can carry 6 x AGM-65 guided missiles. How many can it fire per 30 seconds? How many targets can it engage in 30 seconds?

B-9 of the data annex has the AH-64 Apache, and shows it capable of 2 LAU-3A rocket pods. Where can i find the rocket pod stats in the data annex, i havent been able to find it?

 

Should be under Unguided Air Ordnance (I forget the specific annex offhand).

 

In the interim, the LAU-3/3A contains 19x 2.75 inch (70mm) Folding Fin Aerial Rockets (FFARs). Hang weight is ~200 kg, DP 10. The M229 warhead is HE, while the M261 warhead is a submunition payload.

I found my answer to how many AGM's can be launched (it was in the 6.4.3.? area from memory) and its 1 per 15 second interval and each needed a controller in my case. So to engage my 6 initial ground targets i needed 3 aircraft (each controlling 2 missiles) and it doesnt leave much room for error because if 1 misses your next run is probably hotter than the first!

 

I''ve also had a B-52 drop 51 bombs. I can work out the % for 1, 2 or more bombs to hit. But what i am not sure on is if i roll to hit per stick of 6 or if the % to hit plus number of sticks formula includes the fact you have 8 sticks of 6. So is it one roll to hit? Or 8 rolls to hit (per stick of 6) plus 1 more roll of 1 stick of 3?

Is each bomb that hits a runway equal to a cut (page 6-19)?

 

My question re "is it one roll to hit? Or 8 rolls to hit (per stick of 6) plus 1 more roll of 1 stick of 3?" is answered at 6.3.4.1.1 last paragraph page 6-10 says make 8 attacks of 6 sticks plus 9th attack of 3 bombs in the stick.

 

I'm posting my own answers here

in case i am wrong and someone can correct me.

in case anyone else is looking for the same answers

so i can refer back here when i cant answer the same question next week!