I think the F-111s could doe NoE as well. Maybe the Su-24s, too.

 

I believe in the original DB that the F-111 couldn't.

 

From original GIUK on, here's a short list of known NoE-capable a/c: Harriers, Tornado attack variants, (not F.3, afaik), A-6E, Su-24. By IOPG at least (maybe before, but not sure), the F-111 and F-15E are also on that list. I'm not real sure, but I think the Forgers (VTOL off the Kiev) are also Vlow capable, which means later the -141 probably is, too.

 

Anything else, I either know won't do it, or I have to test with the save & test method. Nothing else leaps to mind as 'definitely known Vlow capable' anyway. A bunch exist that I *know* don't work.

If enough people think its worthwhile, I can probably add the term 'NOE' to the aircraft description as an interim solution.

 

While that would be great, Brad, it's not the ones in the CDB/editable DBs that I would like to see labeled. I can check PE for those. It's the ones in the old DBs that I'd like to see statused for NoE.

From Tony's comment (not easy to put into GE) and the fact that he and Brad have plenty to do, may be we could start a thread and as vlow capable planes are tested in the older (pre EC2003) battlesets we could post them, maybe have a thread for each battleset?

Don

From Tony's comment (not easy to put into GE) and the fact that he and Brad have plenty to do, may be we could start a thread and as vlow capable planes are tested in the older (pre EC2003) battlesets we could post them, maybe have a thread for each battleset? Don

 

That's not a bad idea, Don. Put it in the Scenario Design forum, and I will thereafter organize it into a sticky.

From Tony's comment (not easy to put into GE) and the fact that he and Brad have plenty to do, may be we could start a thread and as vlow capable planes are tested in the older (pre EC2003) battlesets we could post them, maybe have a thread for each battleset? Don

 

That's not a bad idea, Don. Put it in the Scenario Design forum, and I will thereafter organize it into a sticky.

Mavfin's post #16 in this thread looks like a good starting point.

While in this thread topic, mention was made that physically a radar type device is typically used to fly vlow.

Anyway my querie is assuming this produces an elecromag signal that can be detected by esm, should the GE require some radar activation to fly vlow?

 

Don

IIRC, although some a/c have an active (if quite short-ranged) terrain following radar, some of them use LADAR or passive radar, so they would not necessarily betray themselves to ESM. Depending on the range limits of ESM, it might turn out to be pretty meaningless anyway.

IIRC, although some a/c have an active (if quite short-ranged) terrain following radar, some of them use LADAR or passive radar, so they would not necessarily betray themselves to ESM. Depending on the range limits of ESM, it might turn out to be pretty meaningless anyway.

 

Yep, terrain following radar (TFR) is typically very short ranged, and where radar is not used, the aircraft might employ a laser altimeter or some other means, including a good set of NVGs.