Ok, I'm transitioning to submarines for a while in order to account for some ASW operations. To that end I am using the first ASW Scenario in the quick start book and the subject matter sub is an upgraded German Type 206A SS.

 

First question is regarding the Ship Turning Table which includes an entry of a "surfaced submarine" = standard rudder 400 yards 4kts decrease and hard rudder 300 yards and 6kts decrease.

 

Where is the turning of submerged submarines discussed, did not see it in the rules.

 

Second question is in regards to the DM2A3 533mm Torpedo. Annex F lists three separate ranges and their respective speeds. How/when/where/why are these ranges and speeds are chosen for employment, or is it simply determined in the plotting phase at what range the torpedo will be employed and thereby determining the speed?

 

Thanks,

Second question is in regards to the DM2A3 533mm Torpedo.  Annex F lists three separate ranges and their respective speeds.  How/when/where/why are these ranges and speeds are chosen for employment, or is it simply determined in the plotting phase at what range the torpedo will be employed and thereby determining the speed? Thanks,

 

Depends on the target and the tactical situation. Generally speaking, less speed equates to more range. Maybe you want to engage an enemy target at near maximum range. So you shoot the fish at its slow speed setting (also its stealthiest) and get the most range out of the weapon. Or maybe the enemy target is close, and you want maximum speed where extended range is not important. If the torpedo is wire guided, you can switch to a different speed setting (usually higher, when the target hears the torp) when necessary.

First question is regarding the Ship Turning Table which includes an entry of a "surfaced submarine" = standard rudder 400 yards 4kts decrease and hard rudder 300 yards and 6kts decrease.

 

Where is the turning of submerged submarines discussed, did not see it in the rules.

Figured as soon as I posted it here, the answer would magically appear to me, which it has.

 

Buried within 3.1.2, "Submerged submarines are rated for turning distance by their size class"

 

Thanks anyway.

 

Pete

Moving along well with sonar detection, classification, TMA Solutions, and torpedo engagements. Should have some clarifying questions regarding target masking and Russian sonarbuoys.

 

The use of Northern Aggression from the quick start booklet has been a very good intro to ASW and will go far to the Iranian Kilo stalking my MEU/ARG/ESG.

Annex B lists the Ka-27 with the capability of employing RGB-N and RGB-NM Sonar Buoys.

 

Annex M1 only lists Russian RGB-56 and RGB-64, would you believe that they corellate with the N and NM?

 

TonyE states "RGB-55 is also known as RGB-N so I'd buy your reasoning."

 

Brad says "...?

Sonar Buoys not withstanding (since sub location is known while playing solitaire), this scenario is heavily favored detection-wise to the German Type 206a. It's FAS 3-15 passive sonar has consistently reached out and detected all three Russian ships at ranges beyond even the best Russian sonar capability.

 

To even it up some, Russians have slowed down to 10kts, and have executed a 45 degree turn.

 

All three ships have been positively classified, and the 206a has a "good" TMA solution on the Neustrashimyy due to it actively pinging.

 

Germans must close another couple of turns before letting loose with a spread of its 4th Gen torpedoes.

 

More to follow.

Annex B lists the Ka-27 with the capability of employing RGB-N and RGB-NM Sonar Buoys.

 

Annex M1  only lists Russian RGB-56 and RGB-64, would you believe that they corellate with the N and NM?

 

TonyE states "RGB-55 is also known as RGB-N so I'd buy your reasoning."

 

Brad says "...? 

Not sure, Pete. The RGB-55 is a directional active sonobuoy, while the RGB-56 and RGB-64 are omnidirectional passive type.

 

If RGB-NM refers to an improved or modified version of the RGB-N (and the M designator usually does), and the RGB-N is the RGB-55, then the RGB-NM might not be the RGB-64.

 

I have, however, also seen reference to Type 75 (RGB-75, a LOFAR type) and Type 90 sonobuoys in use with the Ka-27PL.

Brad - after looking into the High Tide Data Annex, it lists the Ka-27PL as having 12x RGB-64 and RGB-75 Sonar Buoys.

 

That's for re-energizing the search.

All three ships have been positively classified, and the 206a has a "good" TMA solution on the Neustrashimyy due to it actively pinging.

 

Germans must close another couple of turns before letting loose with a spread of its 4th Gen torpedoes.

 

More to follow.

 

 

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