Does anyone have H4.1 equivelent stats on this Russian Air Surveillance Radar. On chat last night we were throwing around various websites and stats but there generally was no unit of measure for the altitude.

 

Brad: Any in your "notes"?

Sure, Pete.

 

Long Track (P-40/1S12) ranges

 

Large 81 nm

Medium 53

Small 40

Vsmall 17

Stealthy 5

 

As for altitude data, I don't think I have any specific H4.1 numbers, but I understand that it is >30,000 m, and without the Long Track, the SA-6 is essentially "blind" at high altitudes. This would appear to give the Long Track a high altitude capability. Also, the Straight Flush (1S91) is a medium altitude radar, lending further credence to the use of the Long Track for high altitude work.

Thanks Brad,

 

Any reason why, other that it being a ground based radar in H4.1 , it would not be included in the data annexes if it is such an intregal part of such a common and venable weapon system? Might it be in the High Tide annex? I did not have it handy last night.

You're welcome, and I expect it does appear in High Tide, Pete.

Ok, first it does appear in the High Tide Annex.

 

Second, and to clarify in Harpoon-world:

 

In an SA-6b Long Track/Straight Flush configuration, while the Long Track can detect a large aircraft out to 81nm, the SA-6 is still limited to "acquiring" the "large" target aircraft until the 54nm range of the Straight Flush, regardless of altitude.

 

This is what I am now thinking, sound about right?

Yup. The Long Track target acquisition radar can detect the target at 81 nm, and thus alert the battery, but can't hand off the target to the Straight Flush acquisition/missile fire control (guidance) radar until at least 54 nm.

Yup. The Long Track target acquisition radar can detect the target at 81 nm, and thus alert the battery, but can't hand off the target to the Straight Flush acquisition/missile fire control (guidance) radar until at least 54 nm.

 

With an aircraft flying at 8nm a minute, that's four minutes warning. Which may or may not help the SA-6.

Yup. The Long Track target acquisition radar can detect the target at 81 nm, and thus alert the battery, but can't hand off the target to the Straight Flush acquisition/missile fire control (guidance) radar until at least 54 nm.

 

With an aircraft flying at 8nm a minute, that's four minutes warning. Which may or may not help the SA-6.

 

 

Welcome to the discussion Stephen.