Saw this request on the AGSI website:

 

" ... can we get a basic scenario that has all the bases with the peacetime deployments? It would be really awesome to have the abilty to create scenarios based on making forward deployments as part of the vitory conditions. IE CVBG on east coast, with components having to form up and deploy whie engaging individual sub units. Or a Air wing being moved forward to a base being challenged, or a convoy being formed up. Its just so tough sometimes to know the natural progressions of a unit forming up, that if we had a base scenario with all units in place, we could just then remove those bases, ships, subs and planes not considered essential to the scenario being made."

 

Anyone have any ideas for such a scenario ?

Saw this request on the AGSI website:

 

" ... can we get a basic scenario that has all the bases with the peacetime deployments? It would be really awesome to have the abilty to create scenarios based on making forward deployments as part of the vitory conditions. IE CVBG on east coast, with components having to form up and deploy whie engaging individual sub units."

 

Anyone have any ideas for such a scenario ?

Brad,

I was thinking about the request as well. The request is very open-ended and a solution will be mired in controversy unless this becomes an ongoing project. One must define not only the year or date more specifically, but also the world situation when the base scenario happens in order to get somewhat realistic base sets of platforms in the scenario. Was the carrier visiting down in Florida or up in the 'colonies' when the scenario starts? How about the escorts?

Anyway, personally I would be more than happy to have a prototypical set of surface groups from each generic timeframe to work from. My need for the right revision of the A-6 electronics for the particular date of the scenario isn't very important to me, but an F/A-18 load vs an A-6 load is important to me.

More ideas?

 

Tony Eischens

Yup. Very open ended indeed. However, I was thinking of a scenario that would reply to the request in a very general sense, i.e. create the units and bases stateside and arrange them so that the player must form them up and forward deploy. I'm not terribly concerned about the date, unless someone expresses a specific preference.

Not so much of a scenario idea, but I'm sure that a guide/FAQ to the make-up of a SAG or CVBG would help some folks. It wouldn't have to be specific, but something that would show the general make-up of a of a task force by type and decade would be handy. Sort of like CVBG for X country consists of 1 CV, 3 DD, 4 FF, etc.

 

Obviously minor navies would probably be omitted, but when you look at a modern Russian navy versus the navy of the Soviet Union in 1980 you're certainly going to see a big difference in the task force units present. The same most likely goes for all other major nations, because as time goes by, navies adapt to doing more with less.

 

On a side note, a 'Scramble' type scenario that basically throws you in to a situation that the enemy is inbound and you have to try to stop it with what you have as is sounds like a real challenge. Especially if the ships and aircraft are scattered and not exactly set with optimum loadouts for the sitation.

Not so much of a scenario idea, but I'm sure that a guide/FAQ to the make-up of a SAG or CVBG would help some folks.  It wouldn't have to be specific, but something that would show the general make-up of a of a task force by type and decade would be handy.  Sort of like CVBG for X country consists of 1 CV, 3 DD, 4 FF, etc.

 

This wouldn't be a terribly difficult exercise, especially for the Cold War era. Mind you a lot of the information is readily available on the Web, but we'll look into putting it together in a useful format for Harpoon scenario designers.

 

Obviously minor navies would probably be omitted, but when you look at a modern Russian navy versus the navy of the Soviet Union in 1980 you're certainly going to see a big difference in the task force units present.  The same most likely goes for all other major nations, because as time goes by, navies adapt to doing more with less.

That's true, and it makes it more difficult to present a "standardized" composition of a task force or carrier strike group. They tend to be shaped by the necessities of the situation.

 

On a side note, a 'Scramble' type scenario that basically throws you in to a situation that the enemy is inbound and you have to try to stop it with what you have as is sounds like a real challenge.  Especially if the ships and aircraft are scattered and not exactly set with optimum loadouts for the sitation.

 

Duly noted.

Gentlemen

 

I am so pleased you found the request useful. I found the state of the navy site to be somewhat useful in regards to numbers of platforms deployed, but often that doesnt give you the feel of the actual homeported units and their status. A lot of times when I am looking to replicate the "Pearl Harbor" effect of a raid, you really dont get the true effect without knowing where units may be. I try to keep anything I'm toying with to the current time frame. Perhaps an annual state of world scenario for the area of the globe most likely to have intense naval activity, representing current units and their homeports would be more easily updated? In terms of the Cold War Era, The European homeports and airfield dispositions become more critical, I believe. Even now, European and Med dispositions are hard to simulate.

 

harplayer

//Wishing Kesmai never killed the AOL online harpoon.