KellyC Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Hellos, I am hearing quite a bit about 'notching' AAMs these days. I am curious was this a tactic back in the Cold War or is this something new? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I'm no authority but from a US perspective it seems to be a thing in the F-15 & F-16 days (post F-4. pre-widespread AMRAAM usage). Whether it is effective in late model F-15, F-16 and everything newer is a good question and probably depends upon the actual radar in use and even its software version and configured parameters. Naturally 'notching' seems to be a thing with SAMs as well. Answering your question directly, definitely something from Cold Wars days. It should be a less and less an effective tactic as time progresses. Here is a link to one of the better post-Cold War articles (which itself contains an obligatory Cold War data link) https://forum.keypublishing.com/forum/modern-military-aviation/117289-anti-bvr-tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyC Posted August 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Thanks Tony! Sure looks like the Russians knew of this back then (well enough to teach the Iraqi pilots to do this). Strange I never really heard about this tactic until just recently. Makes you wonder how well the aerial battles would have worked out with the Soviets. Edited August 25, 2019 by KellyC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV32 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 It can still make sense to turn perpendicular to the adversary in a BVR missile exchange, but no longer because of Doppler notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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