You have a new air contact via radar.

 

The Hormone has landed. Except for rule 8.0 (Aircraft Availability for campaigns) I am not able to find any rule for turnaround time on a helo. I suppose there would be a crew change and fuel added. Would 15 minutes seem reasonable?

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I think 3.3.5.7 would be the rule-- and if so, looks like you're instincts were dead on, it would be 15 minutes to simultaneously fuel and alert the Hormone, able to launch 5 or more minutes thereafter. Regardless, either way, I'm happy with the 15 minute number, will respect not launching until at least 5 minutes after that 15 minute number, and really am not intending to launch the Hormone while we're in the middle of a sea of Iranian fighters.

 

Which, incidentally: I'd go ahead and classify A017 as hostile.

 

So, yeah, A017 gets a request for ID and to stand off 25 nm from the convoy. At 35 nm that request gets repeated.

 

At 25 nm, a final message advises "Presumed Iranian F4-E approaching the convoy 80 nm off the coast of Bahrain: I am instructing you to stand off 25 nm from this convoy. Given recent tensions, failure to comply will be viewed as hostile intent, and will be met accordingly. This is the final warning." Get FC radars going at that time.

At 13 nm, assuming CV32 is in agreement, I will fire up to 3 Uragan (SAN-7a) at A017.

Thanks for pointing out 3.3.5.7. I was looking in 8.0. D'oh!

 

I will update the air contact classification and pass along the ID request.

Ladnyy ought to energize the MR-310U (NATO Head Net C) air search radar and the Volga (NATO Don Kay) surface search radar.

 

Place the fire control radars - MR-105 Turel (NATO Owl Screech) and both MPZ-301 Baza (NATO Pop Group) into standby mode. Do not illuminate targets yet.

 

Yishten: I am doubtful that contact A017 is a single contact. If it is, I suspect other F-4Es on a deceptive course, perhaps Vlow altitude, approaching from another bearing. Potential weapons include AGM-65A Maverick, or unguided rockets and bombs. I am thankful we outrange all possibilities. (Don't forget your Bell Squat ECM gear, either.) Any ideas about what we can do to seize the initiative? I have to admit I am not a fan of being forced to react to enemy actions, rather than the other way around. I am tempted to play with speed and direction of Ladnyy just to see what the enemy does, if anything.

I doubt they'd just send the one F-4E also.

 

Firing on them as soon as they enter the range envelope is probably as close to truly seizing the initiative as we are gonna get against the fighters, but at least we have a free hand to engage the ships (once we find them) on our terms once hostilities have been initiated.

 

If you were going to maneuver to see how they react, I'd be tempted to suggest moving toward the P-3F. I will have to review the annex before I could figure out the realities, and I'd be hesitant to put ourselves in a position of not being able to support one another, but if we could work out the details it's possible the implied threat to their tattletale might provoke a reaction.

I doubt they'd just send the one F-4E also. Firing on them as soon as they enter the range envelope is probably as close to truly seizing the initiative as we are gonna get against the fighters, but at least we have a free hand to engage the ships (once we find them) on our terms once hostilities have been initiated.

 

Agreed.

 

If you were going to maneuver to see how they react, I'd be tempted to suggest moving toward the P-3F. I will have to review the annex before I could figure out the realities, and I'd be hesitant to put ourselves in a position of not being able to support one another, but if we could work out the details it's possible the implied threat to their tattletale might provoke a reaction.

Nothing that would jeopardize mutual support. But small, sudden course/speed changes might elicit a reaction or at least mess with their OODA loop, lol. Right now that F-4E appears hell bent on testing the convoy's air defence.

Unless some special detection rule is in effect, I believe that air search radars are capable of detecting individual aircraft. If there was more than one, that would have been noted in the unit description. I will modify the units to show something like 1x Small to show one "hard" contact to avoid confusion.

Unless some special detection rule is in effect, I believe that air search radars are capable of detecting individual aircraft. If there was more than one, that would have been noted in the unit description. I will modify the units to show something like 1x Small to show one "hard" contact to avoid confusion.

 

Thanks. Is it also safe to assume that you are not modeling the effects of radar ducting? (ref: rule 4.2.5.3)

Although any move more easterly than about 020T would pretty rapidly pull out out of overlapping range envelopes, a sprint by Ladnyy at like 000T or thereabout would actually improve our mutual support position before it deteriorated it any.

Although any move more easterly than about 020T would pretty rapidly pull out out of overlapping range envelopes, a sprint by Ladnyy at like 000T or thereabout would actually improve our mutual support position before it deteriorated it any.

 

We are thinking alike.

 

Ladnyy will go to flank speed along heading 000T until it is within 0.5 nm of the rearmost merchant, and then return to its previous course and speed.

I am leaving radar ducting out because I do not know how to display an ambiguous radar contact without creating and deleting units that would have different ID numbers but represent the same unit. It would definitely add confusion and workload.

 

Is Ladnyy the only ship that will change course and speed?

Yes, the rest of the ships will maintain.

 

 

Ladnyy will go to flank speed along heading 000T until it is within 0.5 nm of the rearmost merchant, and then return to its previous course and speed.

 

Brad, I need clarification on your course. Right now all ships are heading 290T. Ladnyy is 090T at 1.4 nm from the last merchant. If you head 000T you will open the range with the formation, not get closer.

He'll get closer to Stoykiy and the approaching fighter though, I think.

 

 

 

Ladnyy will go to flank speed along heading 000T until it is within 0.5 nm of the rearmost merchant, and then return to its previous course and speed.

 

Brad, I need clarification on your course. Right now all ships are heading 290T. Ladnyy is 090T at 1.4 nm from the last merchant. If you head 000T you will open the range with the formation, not get closer.

 

 

Very well. Turn slightly to heading 0300T and increase to flank speed, until 0.5 nm from the rear most merchant (Dnepr) and then return to previous course and speed.