If my earlier "SA-9" and "Back-Up Optical Sighting" posts were not clear, how about the questions/assumptions posed a different way.

 

Is it safe to assume that in H4.1 all of the land-based SAM's found in Annex S without inherent radar systems are intended to be part of an overall air defense coordination network which will facilitate targeting information from radar systems – to C2 nodes - to those firing units?

 

That a radar set or anti-air system with an inherent radar should be part of the scenario T/O.

 

That those systems with an inherent radar capability (SA-6b with Straight Flush or SA-8 ) may have an optical sighting back-up only if duly noted in Annex S and in the event that their radar is destroyed or is not radiating.

 

That those without inherent radar (SA-9 for example) and whose network has been degraded/destroyed, i.e. the Straight Flush being used for the network or a BTR-60 PU Air Defense C2 vehicle takes a critical hit on the Ground Attack Table, are now limited to optical sighting only.

 

Are there any radar-less systems out there that rely on some other type of infra- red/FLIR/thermal target acquisition (not missile guidance) capability?

 

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Are there any radar-less systems out there that rely on some other type of infra- red/FLIR/thermal target acquisition (not missile guidance) capability?

 

Sure, there are many. Prime example being the Avenger, which uses a FLIR and laser rangefinder.

I plan on going to the library of the US Merchant Marine Academy here on Long Island hopefully before a biz trip next week in order to pull their recent/current copy of Jane's Land-Based Air Defence and see what information can be gleaned regarding other-than-radar capabilities on some common systems during a lunch hour (no, they are not open weekends).

I plan on going to the library of the US Merchant Marine Academy here on Long Island hopefully before a biz trip next week in order to pull their recent/current copy of Jane's Land-Based Air Defence and see what information can be gleaned regarding other-than-radar capabilities on some common systems during a lunch hour (no, they are not open weekends).

I actually got my hands on an early 1990's copy of Janes Land-Based Air Defence thru a local library and unfortunately it apparently does not provide much more detail on the SA-6, SA-8, and SA-9 than what can already be found through various online sources.

 

There are some brief discussions within as to how many launchers make up a t/o battery and launcher counts per country, and maybe a brief description on when a system was first employed or other notable usage, and what the result was.

 

So in the end, not exactly what I was looking for.