Herman Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 New PfData file works just fine with that DB, but what a PiTA. Quote
JMS Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 I may suffer a case of the dumbs, but I can't find the November class SSNs Quote
divefreak Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Posted February 23, 2009 I may suffer a case of the dumbs, but I can't find the November class SSNs  Looks as if i missed it.....  Fault fixed.  Thank you very much for the error report.  Regards René rCountrySummaryHC_65to80_DB_090223.pdf Quote
JMS Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 That's fast! Some more stuff that could be added:  Grumman HU-16 Albatros. There was an ASW version that was the first ASW plane used by a number of operators  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HU-16_Albatross#Operators http://82.149.225.246/Squadron_Signal/Squa...20Albatross.pdf   NA F-86F Sabre, this fighter was still in use and saw combat in the Indo-Pak wars of 1965 and 1971. There was a F-104A too, but I will have to check to see if there's any difference with the F-104G for practical effects.  Small corrections, Spanish P-3B were not acquired from Norway until the 90s and the SH-3D AEW is post Falklands, Operational around 1983 or so.  On Spain, there are several classes of frigates missing, namely:  Pizarro class (F-30): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/f3040.htm There were 2 versions, an unmodernised one and a modernised one.  Alava class (F-50): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/d50.htm  Audaz class (D-30): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/d30.htm  Oquendo class (D-40): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/d30.htm 2 versions of this ship too, as the first was different from the last 2.  Descubierta I class (F-50): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/f5060.htm updated coastal escorts. Quote
divefreak Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Posted February 24, 2009 Pizarro class (F-30): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/f3040.htmThere were 2 versions, an unmodernised one and a modernised one.    Oquendo class (D-40): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/d30.htm 2 versions of this ship too, as the first was different from the last 2.  Looks as if i need a bit help with those two ship classes...  Wich ship belongs to wich group? an when were they modernised?  I don´t understand spanish, but i can read most of the data stuff.... unfortunatly not enough to understand such fine diffferences in one class Thanks for your input! Regards René Quote
divefreak Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Posted February 24, 2009 That's fast! Some more stuff that could be added: Grumman HU-16 Albatros. There was an ASW version that was the first ASW plane used by a number of operators  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HU-16_Albatross#Operators http://82.149.225.246/Squadron_Signal/Squa...20Albatross.pdf   NA F-86F Sabre, this fighter was still in use and saw combat in the Indo-Pak wars of 1965 and 1971. There was a F-104A too, but I will have to check to see if there's any difference with the F-104G for practical effects.  Small corrections, Spanish P-3B were not acquired from Norway until the 90s and the SH-3D AEW is post Falklands, Operational around 1983 or so.  On Spain, there are several classes of frigates missing, namely:  Pizarro class (F-30): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/f3040.htm There were 2 versions, an unmodernised one and a modernised one.  Alava class (F-50): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/d50.htm  Audaz class (D-30): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/d30.htm  Oquendo class (D-40): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/d30.htm 2 versions of this ship too, as the first was different from the last 2.  Descubierta I class (F-50): http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/buques2/f5060.htm updated coastal escorts.  Ok  when nothing wents wrong in Real Life (wich is really busy atm ) you ´ll see the additions within the next week  About the P3B:  from the H4 Papers  Remarks: In Service: 1979 TACNAVMOD. • 1978-89: 4 ex-USN P-3B leased, then returned. • 1988-89: 5 ex-Norwegian P-3B delivered.    Thanks for your input! Regards René Quote
JMS Posted February 25, 2009 Report Posted February 25, 2009 The least I could do:  Oquendo class (D-40)  First of class, Oquendo was different than the other 2, characteristics were:  Displacement: 3.004 tons metric full load Dimentions: 116'5 x 11 x 5 m. Max Speed: 32'5 knots Radar: Marconi SNW-10 2-D air, Type 293Q surface Sonar: QHB-a hull mounted Fire control : 1 Vickers-Armstrong w/radar Type 275M (120 mm guns); 1 Vickers-Armstrong w/radar Type 262P (40 mm AA guns) Armament: 2 double 120/50 mm NG53 Dual Purpose guns, 6 40/70 mm Bofors AA, 2 Mk 4 launchers for Mk32 ASW torpedoes, 2 hedgehogs Mk 11  Since this ship was built with local funds, equipment was British.  The other 2 (Lauria and Ensenada) used US weapons to a fit equivalent to a FRAM destroyer,  Displacement: 3.780 tons metric full load Dimentions: 116'5 x 13 x 5'8 m. Max speed: 31 knots Aviation: 1 Hughes 500M ASW helicopter Radar: SPS-40A air, SPS-10F surface (Like a FRAM-II) Sonar: SQS-32C hull; SQA-10 VDS Fire control: Mk68 w/ Mk37 & Mk56 directors; 1 Mk114 for ASW weapons EW: AN/WLR-1 warning, no jammers Armament: 3 twin 127/38 mm Mk32 DP; 2 torpedo tubes Mk25 for Mk-37 torpedoes ; 2 triples torpedo tubes Mk32 for ASW torpedoes Mk44 or Mk46.  Audaz class (D-30)  This ships in their original project suffered from hull weakness, instability and obsolescence but since they were new, they were selected for modernisation, which cured the last, but not the others... Dates are for entry into service after modernisation:  D-31 Audaz - 1961-74 D-32 Osado - 1961-72 D-33 Meteoro - 1963-74 D-34 Furor - 1960-71 D-35 Rayo - 1963-74 D-36 Ariete - 1961-66 lost in a grounding D-37 Temerario - 1964-75 D-38 Intrépido - 1965-82 D-39 Relámpago - 1965-75  Given the short service lives, modernisation wasn't very successful.  Disp: 1.550 tons metric full load Dimentions: 94 x 9'5 x 3'6 m. Speed: 32 knots Radar: MLA-1b air, SPS-5B surface Sonar: QHB-a hull Fire control: Mk 63 w/radar SPG-34 (76'2 mm guns) Armamento: 2 x 76'2/50 mm Mk-34 DP guns, 2 x 40/70 mm Bofors AA guns, 2 launchers Mk 4 for Mk32 ASW torpedoes (6 torpedoes), 2 Hedgehogs Mk 11 ASW, 8 Mk 6 mortars & 2 Mk 9 depth charge racks. Quote
JMS Posted February 25, 2009 Report Posted February 25, 2009 About the P3B: from the H4 Papers  Remarks: In Service: 1979 TACNAVMOD. • 1978-89: 4 ex-USN P-3B leased, then returned. • 1988-89: 5 ex-Norwegian P-3B delivered.  I see where it went off track, here's the service history of the Spanish Orion:  "As a replacement for the HU-16B Albatross the Spanish Air Force took delivery of three P-3A Deltic Orions in 1973. The aircraft were bought second hand from the USN and the aircrew training was done with VP-31 at NAS Moffett Field. The number of Orions was too small for a country like Spain, specially after one of the aircraft had crashed in 1977.  An additional four P-3A's were leased from the USN in 1979.  These aircraft remained in Spanish service until they were replaced with five ex RNoAF P-3B Orions. These were transferred from Norway in 1988 for 4000 million pesetas. The five P-3B's were delivered to Jerez AB by Norwegian crews, where they were put in open storage for a short period. A couple of months later 221 squadron started to operate the Bravoes next to two of the original Alphas.   Three leased P-3A's were returned to the USN, while the fourth one went to the Spanish Air Force museum. The Spanish Orions are operated by a mixed air force / navy crew. Until 1994 their home base was Jerez de la Frontera AB, today they operate from Moron AB. In 1998 the Spanish ministry of defence expressed its interest in two additional P-3B airframes to replace both Alphas remaining in service. Both the US government and the Norwegian government were contacted about the price and availability of P-3B's at AMARC and the P-3N's respectively. However, the P-3A's are still in service albeit as logistic support and pilot trainer platforms. In February 2002 one Spanish P-3B was deployed to Djibouti in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. By the end of 2002 EADS/CASA was awarded a contract for an extensive modification program for the P-3B mission equipment suite. This involved the installation of the so-called Fully Integrated Tactical System (FITS). Almost a year later the first modified P-3B (now called P-3M) was returned to service with 221 Escuadrón."  http://p3orion.nl/operators.html  There was little difference for game terms between the A and the B IMO Quote
divefreak Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Posted February 25, 2009 The least I could do: Â Â Great help! Â Thanks JMS Â Take a look at the pdf... Â Â Will need a bit more time to finish all new entrys rCountrySummaryHC_65to80_DB_090225.pdf Quote
JMS Posted February 26, 2009 Report Posted February 26, 2009 The least I could do:   Great help!  Thanks JMS  Take a look at the pdf...   Will need a bit more time to finish all new entrys  No hurry, you are doing a sterling job as it is. I´ll try to run through other entries and if you don't mind, I´ll post my comments. Quote
JMS Posted February 26, 2009 Report Posted February 26, 2009 Nitpicking a bit:  Argentina: Finger is an updated Dagger, program implemented during the 80s or 90s. Australia: Mirage-IIIO is missing. (1963-1988)  "The production Mirage IIIO retained the SNECMA Atar engine, the major difference between the IIIE and the IIIO being fit of a Sperry twin gyrocompass unit. The SEPR booster rocket was not obtained, the space being used for a fuel tank. The Australians actually produced two variants: the "Mirage IIIO(F)", which was optimized as an interceptor, and the Mirage "IIIO(A)", which was optimized for the attack role. The Mirage IIIO(A) featured a Marconi CW Doppler radar navigation unit and, for later production, a wing with a "wet" leading edge to provide increased fuel capacity. The RAAF also obtained a number of Mirage IIID two-seat trainers, described later.  The first 12 machines were provided by Dassault as knockdown kits, with the next 25 featuring French-built fuselages, the rest of the aircraft being of Australian origin. The last 79 were mostly of Australian origin. Production was by the Australian Government Aircraft Factory (GAF) and Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC). CAC built major subassemblies including engine and the flight surfaces, while GAF built the rest and rolled out the completed aircraft. Initial flight of a Aussie Mirage was in March 1963. The final tally of 116 Mirages included 49 Mirage IIIO(F)s, 51 Mirage IIIO(A)s, and 16 Mirage IIIDs.  A few of the Mirage III0(A)s were converted to a reconnaissance configuration, with a single film camera shooting down out of the bottom of the nose displacing the Cyrano radar. The radar nose could be refitted if desired. All the surviving Mirage IIIO(F) aircraft were converted to IIIO(A) standard between 1967 and 1979, to be logically redesignated "Mirage IIIO(FA)". Late in their lives Aussie Mirages carried some interesting stores, such as US-built AN/ALQ-72 jamming pods and Paveway laser-guided bombs, with the bombs designated by ground forces. The Mirage was finally withdrawn from Australian service in 1988, and 50 surviving examples were sold to Pakistan in 1990. Some were overhauled there and put back into service, while the others were used as spares hulks."  http://www.vectorsite.net/avmir3.html  And the CAC Sabre (1953-1971), an advanced F-86 in the 60s with twin Sidewinders:  http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p86_23.html  And I forgot the RAAF was the only user of the F-4 to return them, 24 being leased 1970-1973  There was also the Macchi MB-326H (1967-1999) but they only served as trainers, so they may not be included.  According to this site: http://www.adf-serials.com/3a9.shtml the RAAF operated SP-2H Neptunes (1961-1978?) and P-3Bs (1968-1984), P-3C only started arriving in 1984.  Bahrain: The F-5s were only sold in 1985, delivered 1985-1987  Belgium: They too used the F-104G, 112 sold/produced (1963-1980s), The A-109 helicopters were bought in the late 80s.  Canada: Another user of the CF-104G, though only in Europe.  USA: F-102 and F-106 are missing, what GW Bush going to fly? Quote
divefreak Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Posted February 26, 2009 No hurry, you are doing a sterling job as it is. I´ll try to run through other entries and if you don't mind, I´ll post my comments.  Thanks...   I like your comments...  and nitpicking is fine.....  looks as if i need more data on the F-102 and F-106 no h4 data Avaible  Regards René Quote
JMS Posted February 26, 2009 Report Posted February 26, 2009 Convair F-102A (1955-1978) Other users were Greece and Turkey, plus the USAF  CONVAIR F-102A DELTA DAGGER:  spec metric english  wingspan 11.62 meters 38 feet 2 inches wing area 61.45 sq_meters 661.5 sq_feet length 20.84 meters 68 feet 4 inches height 6.46 meters 21 feet 2 inches  empty weight 9,145 kilograms 20,160 pounds MTO weight 14,185 kilograms 31,275 pounds  max speed at altitude 1,330 KPH 825 MPH / 720 KT service ceiling 15,550 meters 51,000 feet range 2,175 kilometers 1,350 MI / 1,175 NMI  There was no internal gun armament; primary armament consisted of six Hughes Falcon AAMs, two in each of three weapons bays in the belly. Initially, the F-102A carried three GAR-1 Falcons and three GAR-2 Falcons. The Falcons were carried on stub launch rails that were extended into the airstream for firing. From the early 1960s, the F-102A was equipped with the AIM-26A Nuclear Falcon, which as its name indicated carried a nuclear warhead with a yield in the range of a kilotonne. It was mainly intended to support collision-course intercepts, in which the Deuce attacked from the forward hemisphere of the target; due to the relative high speed of such an intercept, the nuclear warhead was felt to provide a higher kill probability. The AIM-26A was a heftier weapon than the other Falcons. An AIM-26B with a conventional warhead was also built. With adoption of the AIM-26A, the number of FFARs carried was reduced, to ultimately be eliminated entirely since they were all but useless for air combat.  CONVAIR (GENERAL DYNAMICS) F-106A DELTA DART:  spec metric english  wingspan 11.67 meters 38 feet 4 inches wing area 64.83 sq_meters 698 sq_feet length 21.55 meters 70 feet 8 inches height 6.18 meters 20 feet 4 inches  empty weight 10,800 kilograms 23,815 pounds MTO weight 17,350 kilograms 38,250 pounds  max speed at altitude 2,395 KPH 1,490 MPH / 1,295 KT service ceiling 17,680 meters 58,000 feet range with tanks 3,140 kilometers 1,950 MI / 1,695 NMI  It was armed with four Falcon AAMs, plus a single MB-1 (later AIR-2) Genie unguided nuclear AAM, all in belly weapons bays, and originally had no cannon. The only external stores were an external fuel tank under each wing.  From 1967, F-106As were fitted with the General Electric M61A Vulcan 20 millimeter six-barreled Gatling-type cannon and gunsight under Project SIX SHOOTER, the notion of arming an aircraft solely with AAMs having proven somewhat ahead of its time. The cannon had an ammunition supply of 650 rounds and replaced the Genie AAM; arming the F-106 with a nuclear weapon proved troublesome because of the enhanced security and administration required  http://www.vectorsite.net/avf102.html Quote
divefreak Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Posted February 28, 2009 The least I could do:   First of class, Oquendo was different than the other 2, characteristics were:   Armament: 2 double 120/50 mm NG53 Dual Purpose guns,  Hi JMS  I have trouble with the 120mm MAin guns....  absolutly no Data availbe Online or in the H4 Annex....  even navweaps has no info, but at least the gun is listed for spain as 4.7/50  http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNSpain_Main.htm  regards René Quote
divefreak Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Posted March 1, 2009 No hurry, you are doing a sterling job as it is. I´ll try to run through other entries and if you don't mind, I´ll post my comments.   Ok  Db Build for Today is ready...  check the pdf  i´ll upload the db after some more testing HC_65to80_DB_090301.pdf Quote
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