April 14, 200818 yr Please make all your Harpoon Commander's Edition (HCE) Americas Database (HCDA) requests for new platforms, changes to existing platforms, fixes and updates in this thread. It is much easier for me to track requests and changes if they are in one place. To recap HCDA design philosophy: The platforms (ships, submarines, aircraft, installations, and weapon systems) contained in the HCDA will cover (generally speaking) the 1980-2015 era, but this is not a hard and fast rule, and there are some exceptions. Like any database, the HCDA is always a "work in progress". There will be always be errors, typographical or otherwise, to some degree, so please be patient and keep in mind that we might not always agree. Requests for new platforms are always welcome, and stand a good chance of inclusion if (1) they adhere to the design philosophy described above, and/or (2) they are required for upcoming new scenarios, and (3) if you provide links to reliable source information regarding them. What constitutes "reliable source information"? In most cases, Harpoon 4.1 paper rules data is king. Not just because those folks who put together the data are well known for their ability to locate and confirm the kind of minutia a database relies upon, but because that information is then easily translated into a format that a HCE database can utilise. Most other sources can be considered reliable if they are readily confirmed by one or more similar sources. More the better.
January 7, 201016 yr Okay, here are my requests for the HCDA database... Would it be possible to add some or all of the following countries (i.e., copy the information from HCDB)... Egypt Israel (the aircraft and submarines, at least) Syria (ditto) Turkey Greece Saudi Arabia Iran Oman U.A.E. Indonesia Malaysia South Korea North Korea (the aircraft, at least) Vietnam (the aircraft, at least) ...it seems like some of those might get into a scrap with one of the Latin American countries over something. Or work with them in a joint, international effort against a common foe.
January 8, 201016 yr Author Okay, here are my requests for the HCDA database... Would it be possible to add some or all of the following countries (i.e., copy the information from HCDB)... Egypt Israel (the aircraft and submarines, at least) Syria (ditto) Turkey Greece Saudi Arabia Iran Oman U.A.E. Indonesia Malaysia South Korea North Korea (the aircraft, at least) Vietnam (the aircraft, at least) ...it seems like some of those might get into a scrap with one of the Latin American countries over something. Or work with them in a joint, international effort against a common foe. Obviously, I'd like to accommodate your requests, Mark, because you've been such a prolific scenario creator over the years and very supportive of the game. That said, none of these countries really meet the criteria (such as it is) that I've been trying to keep for the HCDA. Are there any that you would prefer over another, or where you can show a real political or military link that might be grounds for including them? Israel, I think, is probably most easily established in that respect, and I see it at the top of your list. Are there any others?
January 8, 201016 yr In terms of who might project power against Latin America... South Korea and Saudi Arabia seem like the only countries with the kind of economy and military might that cross the Pacific and try to beat up on Peru or something. I'd put them at the top of the list. In terms of who might has submarines that might be sent to harass Latin American ships, especially convoys being sent to Asia, etc.... Israel Iran and maybe... Turkey Singapore Malaysia In terms of who might send aircraft to a multi-national effort with or against Latin American countries (probably only a couple of types like F-16s, C-130s, etc.; a lot are already in there, of course, since they're American or European made)... Egypt Saudi Arabia Israel Oman U.A.E. South Korea Greece Turkey In terms of who might be the target of Latin American forces working with other countries as part of a multi-national force....heck, the whole HCDB, but I tried to list only "the usual suspects." Another option would be to add NOT a comprehensive list but 20 or so ship, aircraft, and sub types from Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, etc. to the HCDB. Enough that someone who wanted a Brazilian or Venezuelan convoy getting into trouble in the Persian gulf would have a couple of warships, etc. to work with. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Mark
January 15, 201016 yr As if on cue ... Drug gangs and Iran impact Latin America My 1 cent is that wouldn't it be easier to add LatAm platforms to the HCDB (to the INT part, I am thinking about the Meko 360s - deployed to the Gulf and the Lupos), as for aircraft, the SUE, Su-22 & F-16 is already there and I think the A-4. Same for subs. You are forgetting about Russia in the HCDA (deployed Petr Veliky and Tu-160 to Venezuela)
January 15, 201016 yr Author My 1 cent is that wouldn't it be easier to add LatAm platforms to the HCDB (to the INT part, I am thinking about the Meko 360s - deployed to the Gulf and the Lupos), as for aircraft, the SUE, Su-22 & F-16 is already there and I think the A-4. Same for subs. No, that wouldn't be easier at all. Many of those you mention are already in the HCDA. You are forgetting about Russia in the HCDA (deployed Petr Veliky and Tu-160 to Venezuela) Nope. These are already present in the HCDA.
January 15, 201016 yr My 1 cent is that wouldn't it be easier to add LatAm platforms to the HCDB (to the INT part, I am thinking about the Meko 360s - deployed to the Gulf and the Lupos), as for aircraft, the SUE, Su-22 & F-16 is already there and I think the A-4. Same for subs. No, that wouldn't be easier at all. Many of those you mention are already in the HCDA. You are forgetting about Russia in the HCDA (deployed Petr Veliky and Tu-160 to Venezuela) Nope. These are already present in the HCDA. Ooops, quoted you instead of Mark!
March 16, 201016 yr Author A reminder for myself ... From Flight Global DATE: 16/03/10SOURCE: Flight International Peru snaps up stored Dutch maritime patrol aircraft By Anno Gravemaker Peru has signed a contract to purchase two surplus Fokker 60 maritime patrol aircraft from the Netherlands defence ministry. Signed on 23 February, the deal covers the transfer to the Peruvian navy of the specially modified transports, which were flown from Hato airbase in the Dutch Antilles between 2005 and 2007. Equipped with Telephonics APS-143 surveillance radars and on-board workstations for a tactical commander, radar operator and two observers, the aircraft delivered interim coastguard cover between the retirement of the Netherlands' Lockheed P-3C Orions and the start of operations with leased Provincial Airlines Bombardier Dash 8s. Also modified with additional fuel capacity, a sonobuoy launching system and observation windows, the aircraft have been in storage at Woensdrecht air base awaiting sale since they were declared surplus to requirements in 2007. ... and ... From Flight Global DATE:16/03/10SOURCE:Flight International Argentina seeks secondhand fighter purchase Argentina is examining a $100 million proposal to buy 12 ex-Jordanian air force Dassault Mirage F1CJ fighters and one F1BJ trainer, having rejected a Spanish offer for a similar number of F1s. The deal is being considered as its remaining Mirage IIIEA/DAs are due to be withdrawn in 2012. In a separate move also intended to enhance its air force's air defence capabilities, Buenos Aires is considering the purchase of two Saab 340s equipped with Erieye airborne early warning radars. The developments come after defence minister Nilda Garré earlier this month outlined a short-term plan to bolster Argentina's military aviation elements. Two Mil Mi-17V1s will be bought under a $20 million deal to restore the air force's heavylift helicopter capability, lost since the deactivation of its last Boeing CH-47C Chinook. Funds have also been allocated to overhaul and modernise the army's three Eurocopter AS332B Super Pumas, and to complete a Huey II upgrade to part of its Bell UH-1H fleet. A new tri-service helicopter school at Campo de Mayo will also receive five new Bell 206Ls.
May 17, 201015 yr Howdy All, Apologies if this has already been requested, but I searched and didn't find any hints. As part of my theme arc to model COIN and CIT in the near future, any chance of adding semi-submersible drug runner platforms? I'm thinking they would be surface units with a small RCS and the ability to go to Peri depth only? Thanks!
May 17, 201015 yr Author Howdy All,Apologies if this has already been requested, but I searched and didn't find any hints. As part of my theme arc to model COIN and CIT in the near future, any chance of adding semi-submersible drug runner platforms? I'm thinking they would be surface units with a small RCS and the ability to go to Peri depth only? Thanks! These have already been modeled in the HCDA as small submarines that can only go to periscope depth. They are submarines, however, rather than semi-submersibles, because we cannot currently model surface units with the ability to dive.
June 3, 201015 yr Howdy All,Apologies if this has already been requested, but I searched and didn't find any hints. As part of my theme arc to model COIN and CIT in the near future, any chance of adding semi-submersible drug runner platforms? I'm thinking they would be surface units with a small RCS and the ability to go to Peri depth only? Thanks! These have already been modeled in the HCDA as small submarines that can only go to periscope depth. They are submarines, however, rather than semi-submersibles, because we cannot currently model surface units with the ability to dive. Brad - thanks. Sorry for the delayed reply, but I couldn't recall if this thread was here or at MatrixGames, so it took me a while to find the breadcrumbs. You say that the SPSS is already modeled? I have the 100208 version of the HCDA. Can you please advise which model it is that you're referring to? Also, it would need to be relatively underarmed, certainly with no torps. I couldn't find any that matched the SPSS. Regards, -Armando
June 3, 201015 yr Brad - thanks. Sorry for the delayed reply, but I couldn't recall if this thread was here or at MatrixGames, so it took me a while to find the breadcrumbs. You say that the SPSS is already modeled? I have the 100208 version of the HCDA. Can you please advise which model it is that you're referring to? Also, it would need to be relatively underarmed, certainly with no torps. I couldn't find any that matched the SPSS. Regards, -Armando Never mind - found it. We really need a UI ability to read which DB we're using in-game or in-SE. Guess who still had the HCDB loaded - DOH!
January 3, 201115 yr Bear with me if I fumble around here, this is my first topic. I Have a few requests for the next HCDA, as I'd like to write some stuff, and tweak the stuff I have done already. 1) Could the AMRAAM family weapon ranges be the same as HCDB 101213? I think that was a HUGE improvement in play balance. 2) Could you export the SU-33 family (all three) from HCDB 101213? (can you tell I'm a fan?) 3) Could you add the Chinese CV? I'd like to get it into trouble. 4) This is asking a lot, but a speculative high performance carrier A/C for Brazil. Gripen or Rafale, with Brazilian weapons such as MAA-1B and MAN-1, MAR-1, Python 5, possibly Derby? I expect we'll see these in the next 8-10 years. 5) Can the RGM-84D have a shorter (75nm) range, as in HCDB 101213? Thank you so much.
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