Dear Brad,

 

I am re-posting this here as per your request.

 

Thanks.

 

Mark

 

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Quick requests for the next version, when you have time...

 

* Danish, South Korean, Dutch, and Norwegian versions of the Lynx (or

revised descriptions of existing versions so folks know which ones to

use...I don't mind if the Dutch use the German version, or whatever,

but I simply don't know which ones to use.) Thanks for adding the

Series 300 Super Lynx.

 

* The Italian Cavour is still listing space for only 12 aircraft; this

seems low for a ship that's as big as a Tawara-class (also, one time

trying to add aircraft to it caused the scenario editor to crash)

 

* Sandown class minehunters (UK) <-- Hazegray has some information;

it's not clear how they blow up mines since the only weapon listed is

one 30 mm. cannon (maybe they just shoot them, but that might be hard

to model in the database); these appear to be the replacement for the Hunt

 

* S-80 class submarines (Spain) <-- new class with Harpoon missiles

 

* Lt. Col. Errhamani (Descubierta class) light ASW frigate (Morocco)

 

* El Lahiq (Osprey 55) class large patrol boats (Morocco)

 

* Okba class (PR-72 type) large patrol boats (Morocco)

 

* Lt. De Vaisseau Rabhi (Vigilance) class large patrol boats (Morocco)

 

* Commandant Al Khattabi class large patrol boats (Morocco)

 

* El Yadekh (Kebir) class patrol boats (Algeria)

 

* Type 209 coastal submarines (South Africa) <-- okay, South Africa

isn't on any of the five maps, but it is possible they might get

involved in some scenarios in the IOPG zone (maybe a South African

submarine is being used to smuggle something from Iran?)

 

* MEKO A200SA type patrol frigates (South Africa) <-- see above

 

While we're on the subject of adding countries not yet on the maps,

perhaps it's time to start adding the major Central and South American

navies (Brazil and Argentina, followed by Venezuela, Colombia, and

Mexico)? Of course, until we have a South Atlantic map, I'm guessing

the most likely scenarios where such navies would be involved would be

convoy operations so you would only need to add the frigates (and

maybe the submarines and the Brazilian carrier). None of the smaller

craft (patrol boats, etc.) need be added. Any thoughts on this?

 

Thanks. And again, thanks for your work on the database.

 

Mark

* Danish, South Korean, Dutch, and Norwegian versions of the Lynx (or

revised descriptions of existing versions so folks know which ones to

use...I don't mind if the Dutch use the German version, or whatever,

but I simply don't know which ones to use.) Thanks for adding the

Series 300 Super Lynx.

 

 

South Korean version, Peter Grining:

"Lynx Mk99: The initial order was for 11 ASW aircraft (as Sea Of Dragon entry with MAD, but no Sea Skua capability), then 6 with Sea Skua (no ASW sensors). A further order for 12 with Sea Skua capability (But possibly no ASW gear?) has been placed.

627 Squadron with first 11

629 Squadron with 2nd batch"

 

Norwegian, PG:

"Lynx Mk 86: Due to lack of spares, 2 of 6 in service in 2001. Operated by Coast Guard."

(hum, should i say that norwegian stuffs are certainly well documented on HHQ?)

 

Dutch version, PG:

"SH-14D Lynx (B-9): Original numbers were 6 UH-14A training/transport, 10 SH-14B (ASW w dipping sonar) and 8 SH-14C. 22 remain all SH-14D, ESM, FLIR and 3rd Gen Decoys being fitted."

 

German Version:

http://membres.lycos.fr/harpoon4/frm/ge/2002/wg13mk88a.pdf

Peter Grining:

"Lynx Mk88: Sensors should include Sea Spray radar and MAD (or not reports differ) . Upgrade to Mk88A 2001-2003 to 360 degree Sea Spray radar, Sea Skua ASM, FLIR. 17 Mk88 and 7 Mk88A (1999 on). "

 

 

* The Italian Cavour is still listing space for only 12 aircraft; this

seems low for a ship that's as big as a Tawara-class (also, one time

trying to add aircraft to it caused the scenario editor to crash)

 

PG:

"Andrea Doria CVH: Nuova Unita Maggorie (NUM) to replace 'Vittorio Veneto' from 2007. 20800 st/29000 fl, COGAG/CPP for 29 knots, 7000 nm at 16 knots. Has 6 helo spots, ski jump will be fitted, crew 430 + 203 airgroup + 140 flag. Carrier air group 8 AV-8B, 12 EH101. 134 metre long, 21 metre wide Hanager for 12 EH-101 or 8 AV-8B plus 8 to 10 on flight deck. Weapons are F&A(16)2 Aster 15, F/PA/SA (1)3 76mm Super Rapid. Radars: SPY-760 EMPAR. Fitted with SLAT torpedo decoy. Original plan was to have been a dual carrier/troopship (using hanager deck as vehicle deck) load is 603 troops, 26 tanks, 80 trucks and 2 60 ton landing craft or 4 30 ton landing craft and LCAC capable. The stern dock has been removed from the design and possible troop complement reduced to 350 with helo transport only. Two 30 tonne elevators. Dual stabilisers. "

 

Italian source:

http://freewebhosting.hostdepartment.com/i...y21/Cavour1.htm

 

* Sandown class minehunters (UK) <-- Hazegray has some information;

it's not clear how they blow up mines since the only weapon listed is

one 30 mm. cannon (maybe they just shoot them, but that might be hard

to model in the database); these appear to be the replacement for the Hunt

http://h4eur.free.fr/gb/2002/m101.pdf

 

PG:

"Sandown MH: 2600nm @ 11 knots. M103 Cromer struck 10/01. M106 and on have 2 man diver recompression chambers, M104 has portable compression chamber, doubles time at depth.

 

M101 Sandown (6/89-), M102 Inverness (3/91-), M104 Walney (3/91-), M105 Bridport (11/93-), M106 Penzance (5/98-), M107 Pembroke (7/00-), M108 Grimsby (9/99-), M109 Bangor (7/00-), M110 Ramsey (6/01-), M111 Blyth (8/01-), M112 Shoreham (7/02-)"

 

 

* S-80 class submarines (Spain) <-- new class with Harpoon missiles

PG:

"France Scorpene S-80 SS: May be ordered in 2001 (possibly increasing the in service dates bt a few years), 2000 subm, AIP, 21 knots, 6 TT w/18 weapons. S-81 2002, S-82 2003, S-83 2004, S-84 2005."

 

* El Yadekh (Kebir) class patrol boats (Algeria)

Hazegray:

http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/africa/algeria.htm#3

 

* Type 209 coastal submarines (South Africa) <-- okay, South Africa

isn't on any of the five maps, but it is possible they might get

involved in some scenarios in the IOPG zone (maybe a South African

submarine is being used to smuggle something from Iran?)

 

http://membres.lycos.fr/harpoon4/frm/sa/2002/s98.pdf

 

While we're on the subject of adding countries not yet on the maps,

perhaps it's time to start adding the major Central and South American

navies (Brazil and Argentina, followed by Venezuela, Colombia, and

Mexico)? Of course, until we have a South Atlantic map, I'm guessing

the most likely scenarios where such navies would be involved would be

convoy operations so you would only need to add the frigates (and

maybe the submarines and the Brazilian carrier). None of the smaller

craft (patrol boats, etc.) need be added. Any thoughts on this?

 

We can virtually meet tehme everywhere but, IMHO, mostly in the south Pac, Indian Ocean. It can be interisting to have them as "backup" in a typical ColdWar convoy scen.

 

And here's the Cheetah H4 form:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030217084956/...80/cheetah.html

Rooivalk:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030202120030/...0/rooivalk.html

 

Hope it helps,

Jan