mike tango

Is it now too late to join? It's been a while since I last visited these pages...

Yip kcdusk you're right, the toss bombing technique was employed by the South African Air Force's Mirage F.1AZ and Buccaneer S.Mk.50. According to one of the pilots that flew in the bush war Col. Dick Lord who wrote a book about his experiences with the Mirage F.1AZ called "Vlamgatte" (loosely translated as Flaming Ass due to obvious reasons...) toss bombing was conducted with a MER on the center station loaded with four Mk82 500lb LDGP Bombs or CB470 Cluster Bombs. Whether the Buccs actually tossed bombs from the bombay is another question. Thought you might find this interesting.

I think you all made valid points here and I appreciate the response. Seeing that I see this as a Cold War possible WW3 scenario in the mid eighties, that lurking sub might be a Charlie...

Thanks Brad, Pete. I figured something like that but allow me to amplify my original question regarding the ASW escorts. Would there be some form of sanitising operation to confirm that no hostile subs are present on the carrier's projected course during flight operations? A sprinting carrier and close escorts seems like a juicy target...especially if the hostile does not need to try and play catch up.

I have a question regarding the deployment of the escorts in a CVBG especially during the Cold War days of the mid eighties, just at the time the AEGIS system was becoming operational. The way I understand it a carrier would be escorted with a few air defence cruisers and destroyers as well as ASW orientated ships like the Spruance class and frigates. Now, when a carrier turned into the wind and for example had to steam at 30 knots to conduct flight operations, how did that impact the escorts especially the ASW ships? Did they run at that speed too to keep up with the carrier and to maintain station? My understanding is that it has a negative impact on their primary mission? And what about a SSN assigned as direct support to the CVBG? My second question is based upon a scene from Red Storm Rising where a CVBG formed a Task Force with some amphibs. At one point the carrier turned into the wind to launch F-14's. Does that mean the rest of the Task Force was split off and the two groups maneuvered independently? Anybody out there that can help? (BTW Red Storm Rising was the main factor that got me into naval gaming in the first place. Thanks TC.)

In the conventional naval encounter the Kirov-class BCGN...those SS-N-19's...

Thank you kcdusk I appreciate the info and the sites I'm sure it will come in handy. Still no mailman with H4.1...

Thanks Silenthunter, To be honest I heard about the boards on a site called Harpgamer....

Thanks guys. I've downloaded the plotter and would like to see how it works, thanks again Tony and Pete for the welcoming. While on topic have anyone tried the Berthier system as a plotting board?It only occurred to me now that I have it somewhere on file but I would like someone's opinion on it since it seemed a bit clunky when I checked it out. Thanks Juhan

Hi guys this is officially my first post. I start the proceedings with two questions that might have already been asked. So just bear with me for a moment . I've read the posts on H4 paper rules and I found them extremely interesting and informative. So much so that H4 is on its way to me from the US, (no dealers locally). I have been the proud owner of H3 by GDW for a few years and I also own H3 ANW for PC but it just does not have the same enjoymement level that I experience with the paper rules. So, having expelled much hot air here is my questions: I have read about a plotting board used for gaming (I think solitaire games). Where is it possible to obtain this? Is it possible to obtain back issues of the Naval Sitreps that was published? Thanx MT

Hey guys, my first post... If I'm not mistaken the descriptions of Cruisers and Destroyers differ from nationality to nationality as well. The big gun battleship still rocks though.