donaldseadog Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, TonyE said: Another tool at your disposal is looking at the commondb\res\annex_mags.csv to see if it is staying the same across exports. That'll be incredibly useful TE, this thing is very strange to me but I admit the PE is not my home turf. I did squizz into the folder but got overawed and departed. I assume its written at time of export, not real time as edits are done in pe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, donaldseadog said: That'll be incredibly useful TE, this thing is very strange to me but I admit the PE is not my home turf. I did squizz into the folder but got overawed and departed. I assume its written at time of export, not real time as edits are done in pe. Correct, at time of export? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 I've had a quick look, and don't really know what I'm seeing, the first ~85 entries look the same or nearly the same. Also what is annex_magsEx.csv, how's it differ. This is what I see, what is it telling me? I'm guessing I take a snap shot before and after doing a export and comb the probable places for a change.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) Screen shot (I've no idea if this is helpful): In original HCCW database imported into PE I firstly cleared from bottom up all the magazine for this platform, verified in GE via toolbox that the magazine was empty. Then repopulated (but in different order) the magazine and exported. Restarted the scenario and the correct item were in the magazine but wrong order, the order in the GE is the same as shown here in the csv file (I assume these are the corresponding entries as they are together and the qty and reload correspond to the silly values I used). I'll need to check this as see next post. Edited November 2, 2023 by donaldseadog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Next I took the sister class (one ship from each in the test scenario) and deleted a couple of items from the magazine in PE, (without first clearing it out) and the result in the GE is two items but one wrong item. Also the magazine in the original edited class appears to be different to what it had been, although not altered in the PE, I'll do the previous again. Annoying, I can't drop screen shot I've probably over spent my HG data budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Also the Count and ReloadTime values come thru into the GE 'normal' even where I give them 'silly' values and in the csv file they come thru with the 'silly' values. But maybe that is how it goes? And confirmed that on occasions of editing one class but not the other, both change in GE but haven't changed in csv file. It does seem (Eric observed it I think) if you delete only some of the items then the original first item remains although the number of items will be correct, but if you delete all then popualte from scratch it is correct (maybe the order is different). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Time for bed, I'm getting a feeling the csv file is OK (it took a while to work out for each class the order of mag items in the csv is reverse to the PE). The move to the commondb file is getting the number of items right but messing up if the first is deleted or overwritten. I'll look tomorrow at what happens when simply adding items 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Is this significant? It seems to be the annex_magsEx.csv file (not annex_mags.csv) that is changing after pe export. annex_mags.csv maybe is written at import to PE, annex_magsEx.csv written at export, but all other csv files get overwritten at export? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Trying for some basic info, I've started with HCCW110114, first ship (makes it easier) is '69 JFK CVA. It has no magazine to start and I add in PE 12.7mm AG MG. That comes thru in the first item of the csv file exactly as I entered it (assuming the wep ID is correct). In GE it's like some typo and I get 127/54 shells? Checking the wep ID for the 127mm/54 is 14348, close but not very close to 14357 (what it should be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Next I add seacat to the magazine, the csv file shows the addition correctly in the following line to the 12.7 mg. In the GE the mag shows there are two items but both are identical (and still the incorrect shell). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 I've now added an AS-5 Kelt, and note a few things. Its seems to be added correctly to the csv file but the order of items has changed, The new item is after the previous two but the previous two are swapped around now in reverse order to how they are in the PE. In the GE three items but still the 127mm shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 I've now deleted the first mag entry in PE, the 12.7 mg (original entry). csv file looks totally correct even same order, GE has correct number of items but still wrong item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Now in the PE I deleted all items and added 25mm mg, good in csv but in GE it is retaining the 127mm shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 I've just noticed that the 127 mm shell getting added all the time inthe GE is the first (of many) item in the mag of the next ship class that has a magazine. Also it is the top of the original magazine item list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 I went back to Katlin k/1, cleared mag and added 25mm cannon. Good in csv (item 303) but in GE get RGB-10, wep id 22543, which doesn't seem to appear in a ship class anywhere near Katlin k1. So no 'rule'. Hanging up the towel for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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