Byron Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 I can almost buy the Rafale being so stealthy that an E2-C can't see it until it's under 100 miles away but I fire 16 AIM-54 at two of them and they ALL miss? and what kills them? a pair of last second Sparrows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Byron said: I can almost buy the Rafale being so stealthy that an E2-C can't see it until it's under 100 miles away but I fire 16 AIM-54 at two of them and they ALL miss? and what kills them? a pair of last second Sparrows? Haha, next time just hoon in and try cannon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 hours ago, donaldseadog said: Haha, next time just hoon in and try cannon? And get morted by a pair of Micas which seem to have a higher Pk than anything else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldseadog Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Where's your sense of adventure? They are a chilling combo ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 1:23 AM, donaldseadog said: Haha, next time just hoon in and try cannon? And get mooted by a pair of Micas which seem to have a higher Pk than anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Ever since this first appeared in HC 2002 Gold I always thought it was a European dB editor who wanted to get even with Tomcats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV32 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 There is the issue of perception during game play (because of the effect of die rolls, principally.) And then there is the DB reality: Rafale (all versions), ATA/DATA values are 55/30 (the same as Eurofighter, for example.) By comparison, the F-14B/D is 45/25. As for Mica (all versions), its hit probability (pH) is 75. By comparison, the AIM-54C Phoenix is 55. Send an early fourth generation fighter up against a late 4.5 generation fighter, get bad die rolls, and viola ... these kind of results. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 What killed me was 16 Phoenix with no hits (from two different flights of 3 each) and the last ditch was a pair of Sparrows and the Sparrows did the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV32 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Byron said: What killed me was 16 Phoenix with no hits (from two different flights of 3 each) and the last ditch was a pair of Sparrows and the Sparrows did the trick. Unlucky die rolls. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted November 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, CV32 said: Unlucky die rolls. 😊 Just lucky I outran those 4 Micas before they ran out of fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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