Silent Hunter UK Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 The Harrier GR.9s took their last flight today, ending with some of the aircraft doing literal "bows" before they landed. I'll see if I can link to some footage up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncepulido Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Very sad, the Harrier's homeland without Harriers In this month's Air International No 1(F) Squadron to be disbanded in 21 January 2011, the first and the last British squadron Harrier equipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism_scotland Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Very sad that for 10 years we now have no seaborne fixed wing aviation capability, I personally think its a fairly short sighted fiscal move with little military thought having been put into the SDR by the coalition but whats done is done but god help the government if the planes are actually needed in the next few years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Hunter UK Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Footage here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Footage here. Sad to see them go; I think the capability will be missed Saw its flight demonstration at Cosford in 2007 and again this summer in Skrydstrup (Denmark) Always an impressive sight and sound .morten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divefreak Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Footage here. Sad to see them go; I think the capability will be missed Saw its flight demonstration at Cosford in 2007 and again this summer in Skrydstrup (Denmark) Always an impressive sight and sound .morten Harriers at Skrydstrup? very pitty i missed it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Footage here. Sad to see them go; I think the capability will be missed Saw its flight demonstration at Cosford in 2007 and again this summer in Skrydstrup (Denmark) Always an impressive sight and sound .morten Harriers at Skrydstrup? very pitty i missed it.... Here are some of the pictures I took at Skrydstrup.. The Joint Harrier Force participated with 2 birds, One static, with a FLy Navy-promo tail and another very smart looking bird with a 3-colour flash on the tail (SQN laeders a/c?) Picasaweb album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Hunter UK Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Very sad that for 10 years we now have no seaborne fixed wing aviation capability, I personally think its a fairly short sighted fiscal move with little military thought having been put into the SDR by the coalition but whats done is done but god help the government if the planes are actually needed in the next few years.... The thing is - we could have saved more by cutting the Tornados! The justification is as follows (from the SDSR): Over the next five years combat air support to operations in Afghanistan must be the over-riding priority: the Harrier fleet would not be able to provide this and sustain a carrier-strike role at the same time. Even after 2015, short-range Harriers – whether operating from HMS Illustrious or HMS Queen Elizabeth – would provide only a very limited coercive capability. We judge it unlikely that this would be sufficiently useful in the latter half of the decade to be a cost-effective use of defence resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV32 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 More Harrier farewell pics ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncepulido Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Something the British cant do now, Indian Sea Harriers cross-decking in the Charles de Gaulle. Very sad: http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=115100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat1417 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Before they got the 3 ILLUSTRIOUS, I remember reading that the Royal Navy had been reduced to an ASW force in the North Atlantic. I guess it's deja vu all over again. By the way, what happens to the former Harrier pilots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Hunter UK Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Before they got the 3 ILLUSTRIOUS, I remember reading that the Royal Navy had been reduced to an ASW force in the North Atlantic. I guess it's deja vu all over again. By the way, what happens to the former Harrier pilots? There was only actually a two-year gap between the decommissioning of Ark Royal in 1978 and the entry into service of the Sea Harrier in 1980. However, the Royal Navy was pretty much an ASW force in the North Atlantic for much of the 1980s; the Invincible-class is intended for sub-hunting and lacks the air-wing for decent carrier strike in a contested ASW environment (which wasn't present in most of its operations). It was the modified Centaur-class Hermes (now India's Viraat) that did most of the work in Operation Corporate. As for the pilots: some of them are retiring or going to desk jobs; some into rotary wing (which they're trained for anyway); some are going to be doing exchange tours on the Superbug to ensure currency on carrier ops for 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncepulido Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 And don't forget the demise of the Nimrod past and not-future fleet. No long range ASW/Maritime Patrol Force neither Nobody in the UK Government remembers the hard and longs years to close the Mid-Atlantic gap ???!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_gap The Mid-Atlantic Gap was the gap in coverage by land-based Coastal Command antisubmarine (A/S) aircraft during the Battle of the Atlantic in the Second World War. It is frequently known as The Black Pit, as well as the Atlantic Gap, Air Gap, Greenland Gap, or just "the Gap". This resulted in heavy merchant shipping losses to U-boats. The Black Pit, the most feared area where most losses occurred, was the area southeast of Greenland. The gap was eventually closed in May 1943, as growing numbers of VLR Liberators (Very Long Range models) and escort carriers became available, and as basing problems were addressed. Now, in 2011 and for the years to come, clear and painly it's another Mid-Atlantic Gap for the UK Forces: - No Very Long Range patrol/ASW aircraft (No Nimrod, only answer to purchase P-8A in mid-term). - No escort carriers/Invicibles/CVHs (We must attend to 2020, and just not for light CVH !!!! ). - Only stop-gap inmediate possibility the SSN force, but new Astute class SSNs aparently of doubtful reability (Aparently the same for the present Trafalgar class SSNs). Very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Hunter UK Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 - No escort carriers/Invicibles/CVHs (We must attend to 2020, and just not for light CVH !!!! ). Not quite true; we have HMS Illustrious until 2014, which is an Invincible and can carry ASW helicopters. Queen Elizabeth arrives in 2016 and can also carry ASW choppers. 2020 is the scheduled date for the second QE, the CATOBAR one. There's also HMS Ocean, which could even carry Harriers at a pinch. Admittedly, they're no substitute for the Nimrods, but we're extremely unlikely to be fighting a war against Russia this side of 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncepulido Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 There's also HMS Ocean, which could even carry Harriers at a pinch. What Harriers ? Lend-lease US Harriers ? And about the next war, in our days is impossible any prediction, including short-time predictions, as if why ask someone in 1988 about the world situation in 1992 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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