broncepulido
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Observed building the latest scenarios.
At start I did think the Red side don't launch antiship missiles from its submarines.
This afternoon developed this little test scenario (Mediterranean 2003 theatre) to very this, but the results are at least "strange".
1).- Playing Blue, near the Lebanese coast.
The Red AWACS detects our merchant ships, but only the two northernmost submarines, one Royal Navy and other USN lauch their anti-ship missiles (Harpoon, and the USN submarine some 90 minutes later the longer ranged old TASM), but all the others submarine groups (All Russian SSGN) sail by own AI initiative to use torpedoes againts the merchants (also doing this the US and UK submarines):
- Neither SS-N-7, SS-N-9 (Charlie I/II). have differente flags to Harpoon, but are not launched, same with the little different flagged SS-N-12, SS-N-19, SS-N-26 (Echo II and Oscar II/III).
- Changing Charlie I/II to country UK/US, same result.
- Changing Charlie I/II from SSGN to SSN, same result.
2).- Playing Red, near the Sicilian coast (I didn't observe this running the usual scenarios, but probably because usually play Blue side):
The Blue AWACS detects our merchant ships, but none of the submarines, including the same two northernmost submarines, one Royal Navy and other USN lauch their anti-ship missiles (Harpoon), same the Russian submarines don't lauch missiles, but ALL the submarine groups (NATO and Russian) sail to use torpedoes againts the merchants:
- Changing Charlie I/II to country UK/US, same result.
- Changing Charlie I/II from SSGN to SSN, same result.
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Main inspiration:
Article by Joseph Giuda "Harpoon Scenario: Hunting the Bear" in Harpoon SITREP 66
Main, comprehensive and in deep source for the Yemens, the time period and importantly the internal "events" of January 13, 1986, destroying the 75% of South Yemen air force elements :
"Hot Skies over Yemen, Volume 1, Aerial Warfare over the Southern Arabian Peninsula, 1962-1994" by Tom Cooper. Helion & Company 2017.
Apparently not available on the Helion books site, try here:
https://www.dhz-books.com/en-gb/hot-skies-over-yemen---volume-1,-middle-eastwar-no-11,-helion
On the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) her air wing and her escorts:
http://www.gonavy.jp/CV-CVN65f.html
http://www.uscarriers.net/cvn65deploy.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Yemen
https://armstransfers.sipri.org/ArmsTransfer/TransferData
Ten Mirage IIIC based a Djibouti (this was hard to find!):
https://www.defnat.com/e-RDN/vue-article.php?carticle=13606&cidrevue=386
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Notes on some platforms:
- SA-9b should be not equipped with any radar, but only with RWR/ESM locating system (System 9S12. Not in the East Germany ones, probably not for export: https://www.rwd-mb3.de/pages/9s12.htm )
https://www.rwd-mb3.de/frat.html
- The Juliett SSG in the original Harpoon SITREP scenario has been replaced by an Echo II SSGN, as the missiles of the Juliett in the DB are not ship-attack capable (From 1965 all Julietts were equipped with anti-ship capable P-6 missiles, in the HCDB2 database is only equipped with nukes, some anti-ship, some anti-ground).
- Both North and South Yemen employed simultaneously MIG-21MF and MIG-21bis at that time period. For sake of clarification in this scenario North Yemen employs only MIG-21MF (represented by Syrian MIG-21MF Fishbed-J 80) and South Yemen only MIG-21bis (represented by Algerian MIG-21bis Fishbed-L 80), and only these later ones equipped (if any present on this theatre) with R-60/AA-8 Aphid AAMs.
- South Yemen Mi-24A Hind-A are represented by Libyan ones.
- The presence of USS Salt Lake City SSN-716 is completely speculative, but historically plausible to complete the Enterprise CVBG.
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Gulf of Aden Clash. June 1986. Hypothetical/Historical Scenario.
Gulf of Aden Clash. June 1986. Hypothetical/Historical Scenario.
A Harpoon Commander's Edition scenario for EC2003 Battle for the Middle East Battleset and the HCDB2-170308 new standard 1980-2025 Platform Database. This scenario is designed with advanced Scenario Editor and to be run with HCE 2015.008+ or later.
This scenario is designed to be played from the Blue/NATO-Yemen Arab Republic/YAR (North Yemen) side or from the Red/USSR-People's Democratic Republic of Yemen/PDRY (South Yemen)-Iran side. You should play a few times first the Blue side to avoid spoilers, and only later play the Red side.
Image: The U.S. Navy nuclear-powered Task Force One on September 17, 1986, commemorating a world cruise on the 25th Anniversary of the 1964 cruise Operation "Sea Orbit". Included the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65) which took part in the first cruise, accompanied by the nuclear-powered guided missile cruisers USS Truxtun (CGN-35) and USS Arkansas (CGN-41). U.S. Navy photo and as consequence in public domain, took from Wikipedia Commons and from the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) 1986 cruise book available at Navysite.de.
This scenario is inspired and based in the article by Joseph Giuda "Harpoon Scenario: Hunting the Bear", published in the Harpoon SITREP 66, April 2024, but very expanded.
The initial idea is very simple (read the Harpoon SITREP 66 article for more details): World War III started suddenly everywhere, and both sides forces are trapped in far places, long away of the main European theatre of operations, as reminiscence of many Imperial Germany naval forces at the World War I start.
On this concrete case, the Soviet guided missile cruiser Slava (Sistership of Moskva, sunk by Ukrainian forces in 2022) currently on the Gulf of Aden and her escorts and all available forces in the region are ordered to neutralize or bottle up the USS Enterprise meagre CVBG, itself pretending to transit from the Red Sea through the Bab el-Mandeb Strait on the Indian Ocean.
Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states are neutralized by a Soviet nuclear blackmail, have lost the control of its own air space, and its forces can't support the Blue side neither prevent the use of its air space by the Red side.
Last but not least by years I was interested, and very ignorant, on the Yemen history (Also a very interesting country in the ancient era, with a wonderful architecture), its perpetual turmoil, its complex society and civil wars, its current times with Houties successful perturbing the maritime traffic even with the first use of operational ASBM, and many times thinking on design some Yemen civil wars scenario. At last I do it on this scenario, with the additional surprise found in the research of the original scenario, as it occurred just few months after the South Yemen "events" of January, 13, 1986 and the consecutive People's Democratic Republic of Yemen/PDRY (South Yemen) civil war actions, when PDRYAF lost a 75% of its assets, and the consequent limitation of its capabilities.
A complex, surprisingly balanced and delicate scenario, pretended to be historically accurate about the possible historical forces, enjoy!
Enrique Mas, August 24, 2024.
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Submitted08/24/2024
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Great report, thanks for sharing!
As I did say yesterday, was a very improvised (in two hours!) test scenario, it was growing for itself, and only adding very few details was converted in a complete little scenario, but very changelling and funny.
Also, I'm very surprised as the outcomes are mostly coincidental with the real life situation, as great need of SAMs replishement, as the SAMs (added almost casually) master the battlefield and conditioned the aircraft courses, and as surprisingly the very shorter ranged AIM-120B (40 nm range in my modified DB) can be employed by the F-16AM undetected against fighters carrying R-37M (214 nm range in my modified DB), finishing almost in a draw most times in this scenario (play tested by me some 20 times, both sides).
In fact, a very satisfying and unexpected mini-scenario outcomes.
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Some sources:
- Contemporary events reports.
- Many daily works (and Helion Books) of Tom Cooper, on FaceBook and other media:
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Notes on some platforms:
- Are employed ex Dutch F-16AM in representation of all the aircrafts transferred from other NATO countries (just today I read few minutes ago in the Ukrainian Air Force entry on Wikipedia, are ten F-16 now delivered). Are armed only with the old AIM-9M and AIM-120B, as apparently are the first ones delivered.
- The SA-5c SAM (Very few produced) deployed in "offensive mode" represents old SA-5b updated by the Ukrainians.
- From mid-2022 Russian Su-35S and Su-30SM are carrying as routine one AS-17/Kh-31PD anti-radar missile added to its usual anti-air loadouts, to attack opportunity targets of Air Defense systems (apparently less in use in mid-2024, perhaps the war stock has been depleted)
- From mid-2022? not only MIG-31, but also Su-35S are equipped with the extra long range AA-13/R-37M active radar homing air-to-air missile, apparently achieving some kills at its maximum range of 214 nautical miles. AA-13/R-37M is also carried by the Su-30SM from probably early 2024.
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Ukrainian Falcons, August 2024. Hypothetical Scenario.
Ukrainian Falcons, August 2024. Hypothetical Scenario.
A Harpoon Commander's Edition scenario for EC2003 Battle for the Mediterranean Battleset and the HCDB2-170909 (or later) 1980-2025 era Platform Database. This scenario is designed with Advanced Scenario Editor Build 2017.013 and to be run with HCE 2015.008+ or later.
This scenario is designed to be played from the Blue/Ukrainian/NATO side or from the Red/Russian. You should play a few times first the Blue side to avoid spoilers, and only later play the Red side.
Image: A Ukrainian Tupolev Tu-22M3 (NATO-Codename: Backfire-C) bomber is dismantled through assistance provided by the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program implemented by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, November 12, 2002. Depend on Russia and its consecutive nuclear disarmament was probably the greatest error of the Ukrainian history. Photo by an US serviceperson on duty, and in consequence in public domain, took from Wikipedia Commons.
From the eventful year of 2014 (Mainly from the Russian invasion of Crimea) the world was beginning clearly the so-called Second Cold War, the President of Russia Vladimir Putin (ex-KGB lieutenant colonel) was showing clearly his plan to recover the Russian Empire including previous Soviet territories for reinstitute the greatness of "his" Russia, and to guarantee his passage on the History as saviour of the Rodina.
After the massive Russian build-up of forces from late 2021 in Russia and Belarus near the Ukrainian border, NATO forces were forced to an increased and constant deployment near Ukraine and the Eastern Mediterranean, to deterrent Putin's ambition.
The probably original plan was to avoid an intervention by NATO ground forces but preventing the Russian main forces to enter Ukrainian territory, and to get this target to establish an air and sea exclusion zone around and over Ukraine.
But at last, on February 24, 2022, Russian forces invaded Ukraine against most forecast, sinking the world in a new state of international relations, as consequence of a long and failed campaign of unexpected outcomes, extended more than two years at this moment.
After that time, the Ukrainian Air Force is almost depleted of effective aircrafts, and at last at late July 2024, and after a long preparation, the first F-16AM/BM begin to arrive in Ukraine. They come from many NATO countries, mostly Denmark, Netherlands, Norway and Denmark, and were update in the early 2000, expected to receive between 79 and 129. But they came apparently supplied with older models of AIM-9M Sidewinder and AIM-120B AMRAAM, not with state of art AIM-9X-2 or AIM-120C-7.
Many speculated at the Russian invasion start about NATO establishing an air exclusion zone over Ukraine, but that time was over after the first days of war.
This scenario is very simple and mainly abstract and hypothetical, and not based in the real (secret!) placement of the Ukrainian F-16AM.
I started it as a simple test of capabilities developed in only two or three hours (After some days of thinking on it), and grow a little, and decided to publish it as tribute to the Ukrainian resistance against the invader.
Enrique Mas, August 7, 2024.
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After 25+ years at last this dawn casually understood the presence and significance of sensor 43410, AS/SS capable but with a range of only 0.1 nm, and present in Western and Eastern air defense systems!!!
it must be simply an "Anti Radar Missile - Decoy", very good idea but for years very intriguing for me!
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Now with a little spare time to try these two scenarios.
As usually I did a little research on the platforms involved, and in this case found this curious novelties about HMAS Choules L100:
- Installed a forward Phalanx mount (2018???)
- Surprisingly, installed a luxurious CEAFAR (very probably CEAFAR-1S variant) AESA radar, four faces on top of the bridge, one in each corner (see photo), installed circa January 2024.Here another image with the new four faces radar:-
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But not! The AMRAAM and Sidewinder are shooting down ASBM in ORBIT in the latest test. In other cases very probably the Harriers were in bad position to catch the ASBM with its missiles, because speed/aspect issues. Clearly showed in the Message Log window (test scenario changed to put Harriers in better interception position):
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As consequence of the great and recent "Coral Sea 25" I did observe a little strange behaviour.
To analyse it I scripted a little ASBM (anti-ship ballistic missile) scenario, settled in The Middle East IOPG theatre (Red Sea).
Basically the problem is, when launched ASBM against the USN surface group, the Burke-class DDG correctly launches only SM-3 against the incoming orbital missiles, as they are capable of shooting down incoming missiles at orbit height, but not the SM-6 or SM-2, as its maximum ceiling is Very High.
But the Harriers are launching against the incoming missiles its AMRAAM and Sidewinder, uncapable to reach orbit height!!! (only High or Very High capable).
Also, I observe the AMRAAM and Sidewinder, inmediatly after his launching, dissapear of the screen (probably because are incapable to sustain orbit height!), but are inutily expended!!!
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Italian carrier CVH550 Cavour in Far East.
Air group comprises 8xF-35B (2 of Aeronautica Militare/Air Force), 5xAV-8B+, and 2xSH90.https://www.eurasiantimes.com/wacky-combo-of-f-35-stealth-fighters-loaded/
Details of other European escorts: F594 Alpino, F83 Numancia, F713 Aconit (Also in the region P432 Raimondo Montecuccoli )
https://www.analisidifesa.it/2024/06/lit-csg-con-la-portaerei-cavour-salpa-per-la-campagna-operativa-nellindo-pacifico/Details of other Italian aircraft deployed Far East,total 15: 2xC-130J, 2xKC-767, 1xE-550 CAEW, 4xTyphoon, 4xF-35A (2xF-35B of Aeronautica Militare deployed on Cavour).
https://it.insideover.com/difesa/con-laeronautica-e-la-marina-litalia-si-affaccia-anche-sullindo-pacifico.html -
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Advancing slowly and with some unexpected loses, 3 days 10 hours remaining, and Guadalcanal is so far away!!!
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On 6/30/2024 at 6:54 AM, donaldseadog said:
Here's something new to me, if you use your mouse wheel it changes the selected group or unit (if you're in the group or unit window) up and down (north and south I guess). I suppose I don't use the mouse for lots of stuff so maybe every one knows this but it was a hoot when I saw it.
Not idea! for years employing only mousepad and not mouse!
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IA submarines don't launch Anti Ship Missiles
in Defect Tracking
Playing Blue, at -20:18 Oscar II again launch SS-N-19 at 27 nm target distance (its range is some 200 nm).